Posts by Graeme Edgeler
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Legal Beagle: MPs' Pay, in reply to HenryB,
If we go use 1978 Q1 and compare with 2012 Q1 it comes out at $131,500
I used Q3 in each my calculations: didn't want to overstate result, and knew that now, at least, pay upgrades for MPs take effect in the second half of the year.
Inflation was kinda high in the 70s, huh?
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Legal Beagle: Sanctuary!, in reply to Ian Dalziel,
When they stop abusing their positions and a nation’s trust.
Political abuse of MPs is fine. Just not a fan of arguments based on people's appearances, is all.
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Legal Beagle: MPs' Pay, in reply to Matthew Poole,
Next stop, comparisons to the median wage where data is available.
The Reserve Bank calculator to which I linked includes an option where you can measure wage increases instead of CPI increases. The $18,000 from 1978 becomes $122,500 in 2012 wages.
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If we can stop with the personal abuse of MPs (or anyone), that would be appreciated :-(
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Legal Beagle: MPs' Pay, in reply to James Butler,
I’d be interested to know how well an “inflation adjusted” figure would correspond to what we actually expect politicians to be paid over the long term; ie. if salaries had been inflation adjusted from some point in the past, would they have ended up where they are now?
In 2012 CPI-adjusted dollars, I have quickly been able to determine the follow data points:
1892: $44,700 (first salary)
1944: $39,600
1951: $51,700
1961: $61,500
1964: $81,300
1978: $105,800 (the first calculated under the current scheme)
2012: $141,800A number I quickly calculated from data I/S provided in a post suggested a mid-80s salary at ~$99k.
These are all basic salary component only, ignoring allowances, which are effectively salary, and other support.
edit: ref: http://www.oag.govt.nz/2001/salaries/appendix1.htm and http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/statistics/0135595.html
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Legal Beagle: MPs' Pay, in reply to Matthew Poole,
How many mid-term-elevations of list MPs have occurred? It can’t be many, but I’m curious how many people have been paid illegally.
I count 22 [via Wikipedia].
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Legal Beagle: Sanctuary!, in reply to Pete George,
“In person” doesn’t include on a blog or Twitter I presume.
If you've tried a few times, and actually can't find them, or know where they live, you may be able to arrange to get a Court's permission for substituted service, which can sometimes be by email, or facebook.
But if you know where they live, you'll probably just get permission to leave it there, although alerting them via twitter that it has been left there may be an added extra to make sure they find it.
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Legal Beagle: Sanctuary!, in reply to DexterX,
I expected this and to put the matter of service to rest served him at that hearing
Risky.
Service of Process within the precincts of the Court is sometimes considered to be a contempt of Court. And at an actual hearing? That might be a step too far.
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Legal Beagle: Sanctuary!, in reply to Rich of Observationz,
I guess a process server is a bit like being one of those bounty hunters in the US, except you don’t get to carry the 44 magnum?
A lawyer I know, whom I guess was having trouble serving someone, finally got a process server, and wondering how they would succeed where he had failed, went along with her. While the lawyer waited in the car, she went up to the door with (I think) two dozen beer. The intended recipient, seeing the woman, and the beer, and wondering what was happening, actually answered the door, at which the process server enquired to the effect "are you Rich Observationz?" After an affirmative reply she handed him the beer, and the claim, said you've been served and quickly legged it to the waiting car.
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Legal Beagle: Sanctuary!, in reply to alwyn,
It isn’t really related to the content of your contribution but you brought back happy memories of McCully’s newsletter.
I do think McCully is that rare sort of MP who prefers opposition to government :-)