Posts by BenWilson
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Only if no one introduces Chuck Norris..
You think Chuck would side with Hitler? Hitler did hate commies so maybe....
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God: The thread swallower. God and Hitler together? God wins.
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I guess the real solution to my conundrum is that my reasons for disliking Garrett's position aren't based on him being a hypocrite, they have other reasons altogether, which don't fall under the tu quoque blanket. The reason is because we trust judges to decide whether the destruction of the career of a public figure is punishment proportional to the crime. The fact that this judge didn't have all of the facts because Garrett failed to disclose his more recent crime, is something that simply highlights that the law is not guaranteed to work correctly. But it's still the best system we have.
In which case, I think I can rest easy with myself in enjoying seeing a hypocrite (and also a fairly nasty person) outed, and a party I really don't like in turmoil and disgrace, undermining the support they can provide to a government I didn't vote for, don't trust, and am now actually afraid of.
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Friday brain teaser:
Yeah hypocrisy twists my brain in knots too. I've been more thinking "Is it hypocritical of me to think it's all good that Garrett's name suppression was pushed aside, when one of the things I least like about him is that he thinks that's a good idea for other people?". The problem is that enjoying seeing someone getting nailed for being a hypocrite is always going to be hypocritical in this kind of way.
I've only got two responses so far, but others can help out here:
1. Yeah, I'm a hypocrite, but at least I'm not holding public office.
2. Actually, I don't like it. But that doesn't mean he's not a hypocrite.I think part of the problem is that basing an argument around the other person being a hypocrite is always going to be a tu quoque fallacy. Garrett can still, in all consistency, say "Yes, I was a hypocrite, but I got busted, and that's actually good in the end, and I still believe that people with name suppression should be outed". In fact, he, and others from SST will now have even more of a case, because they can say "well we got outed, and it was in the public good, wasn't it?".
This outcome works in their favor in a perverse way. It actually highlights that name suppression can be quite a broken law, and in this case ended up victimizing the family who could say nothing about the hypocrite who stole their baby's identity, then hid behind a name suppression whilst campaigning against it.
But in the end, I don't think my concerns are going to bother too many other people.
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Thing you have to realize about ACT is: It doesn't matter what 95% of the country think about anything.
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I have to think on this, Sophie. Antihypocritical thinking is really quite tricky.
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As long as I'm an ape, I'm happy, I can still travel business class. They don't let any old monkey in there.
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Discovering via the lifting of the order that Garrett has experienced mental illness takes the fun out of the meme a bit.
Whilst at the same time, as with WhaleOil, explaining a lot.
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The plot thickens: "Harry Harrison's son Harry Harry Harrison's son Harry Harrison"? Who even needs identity fraud in your family?
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To be honest, I actually think that the name suppression was fair enough, that it was a rather minor crime. To think otherwise is to actually agree with Garrett and McVicar at some level, which I don't. What sticks in my craw is Garrett's (and McVicar's) stance since then, deeply hypocritical.
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