Hard News: Proud Wednesday
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It will still be in flash, but the latest [application redacted] will at least let you save it to your hard drive...
Graeme, it's not like you to fail to read the terms of use ...
This website is for your personal and educational, non-commercial use only. You agree not to copy, reproduce, republish, duplicate, sell, upload, download, post, transmit, distribute, broadcast, store (including, without limitation, in electronic form) or modify or otherwise exploit for any commercial purpose any video footage on this website.
I'm realistic about things being copyable if you try hard enough, but we were only able to obtain rights to the programmes on the basis that they were for viewing on screen, and not for copying. It'd be a shame to mess that up on day one ...
And besides, we know where you live.
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As long as Graeme wasn't doing it for commercial purposes, the license statement appears to allow him to make copies for personal use. As a shylock himself, I'm pretty sure he would have read the terms and come to the same conclusion(?)
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OMFG... Could some pitch a Gloss re-boot (they're all the rage) to Three, like, yesterday? Couldn't you just picture a hag-ridden Chelsea Redfern hitting middle-age with all the grace of a demented Rottie locked in a crèche. P-addled teenagers with eating disorders, a secretly gay ex, and a fading fashion rag with as many near-defamatory depictions of B-list fashionistas and media whores as the lawyers will allow.
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I came to the same (not a lawyer) conclusion as Evan did...
If that is NOT what it's supposed to mean, it should probably be re-written.
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Graeme, it's not like you to fail to read the terms of use ...
I'm pretty sure it's very much like everyone...
That said, now that I've read your excerpt, I think NZ on Screen needs a new lawyer if they don't want me saving it without breacking the law :-)
Saving a video for one's personal use (e.g. so you can watch it as one documentary without waiting for each new segement to download a sufficient buffer after the earlier ones have finished) does not seem to be prohibited by those terms of use.
*Personal or educational, non-commercial - check
*You agree not to ... download ... or otherwise exploit for any commercial purpose - check.My downloading (were I to actually do it...) would not be for a commercial purpose (and "commercial purpose" clearly applies to the whole bit).
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What Sam said about Media7. It was a very agreeable evening. And now you provide Architect Athfield for my viewing pleasure. My cup is full.
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And now you provide Architect Athfield for my viewing pleasure. My cup is full
It was precisely with your current research interests in mind that I posted the link.
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That said, now that I've read your excerpt, I think NZ on Screen needs a new lawyer if they don't want me saving it without breacking the law :-)
I have passed on your observations ...
I knew I'd end up having this discussion with you lot on day one :-)
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Can you lot all please stop looking at the site? I can't watch anything cos it's too busy.
*sobs*
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Can you lot all please stop looking at the site? I can't watch anything cos it's too busy.
*sobs*
That's strange. It's bangin' through for me on two different connections.
Where are you trying from?
(If it's work, use the code-word, "harbour")
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well, watch this instead Joanna [off topic]
Joe "I don't wanna pay taxes" Plumber admits he and parents were on welfare...
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Also, do feel free to register and post comments at On Screen too. The "discuss" tab is at the top right of the screen for every programme.
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It was precisely with your current research interests in mind that I posted the link.
Thank you.
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That's strange. It's bangin' through for me on two different connections.
Where are you trying from?
(If it's work, use the code-word, "harbour")Ahh yes, now that I have swum to a secret island in the harbour, things seem to be working much better.
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OMFG... Could some pitch a Gloss re-boot (they're all the rage) to Three, like, yesterday? Couldn't you just picture a hag-ridden Chelsea Redfern hitting middle-age with all the grace of a demented Rottie locked in a crèche. P-addled teenagers with eating disorders, a secretly gay ex, and a fading fashion rag with as many near-defamatory depictions of B-list fashionistas and media whores as the lawyers will allow.
Heh Sounds like the plot of a Tom Sharpe book?
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Sue,
happiness is watching the first episode of gloss
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NZ On Screen, the living archive of New Zealand television and film that I've been on the trust board of for nearly year. It's a non-profit, public good project funded by NZ On Air
In a word - brilliant! Things I haven't seen for years (Spot On! Nice One Stu!). Great effort and please keep it up. Thanks to all involved for making this available.
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My mad idea for the day: date and geotag all the clips on NZ On Screen, then mash it up with Google Maps. Given sufficient material, you can then see what any part of the country looked like at any point in time.
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My mad idea for the day: date and geotag all the clips on NZ On Screen, then mash it up with Google Maps. Given sufficient material, you can then see what any part of the country looked like at any point in time.
Your mad and brilliant idea for the day.
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Your mad and brilliant idea for the day.
And it's not even that mad. Obviously, the site needs to find its rhythm for the next six months or so, but there's no show-stopping reason that can't happen.
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WTF? Flash player on the NZ On Screen site?
Why?
Does anyone use that anymore? Why not Real Player/Quicktime and whatever the Microsoft program's called...
Flash sucks ass. Big time. Sorry to harp but that is disappointing. There should be options - am I missing something or is Flash player the only way to do it on the site?
And if it was downloadable, rather than view only with Flash while you're there, it could be much better also... but I guess that ol' rights issue comes up eh?
I'd be interested to hear what Robbery thinks on such issues BTW, when it comes to movie/TV/docos etc as opposed to music downloads. Same thing?
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WTF? Flash player on the NZ On Screen site?
Why?
Does anyone use that anymore?Oh, only YouTube, nearly all YouTube imitators, nearly all broadcaster websites, TVNZ ondemand, TV3, etc. It would not be going too far to say it's near ubiquitous.
Why not Real Player/Quicktime and whatever the Microsoft program's called.
RealPlayer is vile, and it was a huge relief when the BBC finally dumped it in favour of Flash. And Microsoft still doesn't seem able to get Silverlight to critical mass. QuickTime, much as I love it as a tool, is a terrible streaming solution.
Flash sucks ass. Big time. Sorry to harp but that is disappointing. There should be options - am I missing something or is Flash player the only way to do it on the site?
Um, have you tried the site? The video works really well. The video files are H.264-encoded and they look freakin' lovely.
And yes, according to one estimate, 98% of all desktop internet users have the Flash plugin installed, and 82% have the latest version. Nothing else comes close for user base.
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It really would be nice to be able to download the movies without an external application..
That said, I just watched patu! and it was amazing. Really puts Keys claimed lack of opinion into perspective for someone from the younger generation.
Thanks for the heads up.
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I don't have the latest Flash the stie says... oddly I can view footage on YouTube for sure no problems, I go there to see stuff.
I can NEVER use the TVNZ player, it just doesn't work. Maybe it's the latest Flash thing, tho I don't get a message to that effect, it just sucks.
TV3's fine though!I'd prefer to be able to download than view as you are, for something like this... no chance then I take it from that response, Russ B?
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er, the SITE says, natch
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