Posts by Gareth Ward
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Hilary ... don't.
I know, that was painful to read because it feels too plausible. And I don't just mean He who is Afraid of Tunnels.
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That $300-$700m number is quite amazing - they have magically saved (potentially) MORE from NZTA's lowest-acceptable option than the original difference in NZTA's options.
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Sorry, second to last post (too slow!)
This one: http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,1847,speaker_economics_of_the_waterview_tunnel.sm?p=108737#post108737 -
Joshua, your last post is the most concise nail-meet-head of them all - may I recommend to anyone organising opposition to this that they utilise that for the basis.
- NZTA considered a number of options
- The construction cost difference between the cheapest open cut option and the planned twin tunnels was only $450million
- All other costs should be considered equal between the options for transparent comparison
- NZTA did not consider any cheaper alternative as plausible- Not only have the Government cynically and purposefully overstated cost differences, but they somehow believe they can build a road&tunnel option for less than NZTA costed for the cheapest acceptable open road option. Auckland is getting a below-acceptable-quality alternative sold on dodgy numbers.
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Oh well, at least Don Brash and Owen McShane's key fears about dying like royalty and claustrophobia have been assuaged over petty concerns like kilometres of green spacing, dividing a community and destroying people's homes.
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You have to admire political gameplaying at this level.
I can understand why you would, but it's what disappointed me the most about these last few days.
Sensible, pragmatic discussion be damned - we need to play games with Duncan Garner. -
NZTF uses money from petrol taxes, road-user charges and so forth - which means that debt is not incurr
But if you want to do the other things currently in the NZTF then you have to borrow for them. Or equally you could stop those things going ahead and redivert the funding to the tunnel option.
So doing a straight apples-for-apples, the financing cost is accounting quirks only.
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Who's Gareth...?
I'm still trying to work that out actually...
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Re submission cost to the Environment Court, Joshua if you want to put up a solid response I'd be more than willing to donate to Auckland Transport Blog Inc to help make that happen =)
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So if the NZTA goes the $1.4b route, construction costs will be $900m less. It looks like it will be at least 7 years until it's completed?
Were we really not willing to have an extra $130m a year spent on this?