Posts by BenWilson
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Yes. I've heard alarming things about about one well-known Auckland establishment keeping its staff on P -- handily meaning they (a) need money all the time, and (b) aren't in a mental or emotional state to make good choices.
They're not necessarily going to be the least bit unwilling about it all, either. People who like P, really like it. And if they have to root like crack-hos to get it, root they will. They might really love it, even. I've heard of that, one particular girl who was always trying to get my "source of all this sordid knowledge" on the bake, because that was her idea of fun. He hated that, but was perfectly happy with her crazy arsed antics in bed.
I'm not in the market for sexual services, but it does seem that those owner-operated suburban brothels would offer a better chance of a mutually respectful exchange of money and services
She was an owner-operator, btw. It's not necessarily a choice of empowerment, it might also be the best way to eke out a living after you've been kicked out of every brothel in town because you're too old and look like too much of a junkie. They are by far the cheapest brothels, I believe $50 is not an uncommon rate. Doesn't really sound nearly so wonderful, especially when you consider that's only enough for half a point of P, barely enough for the next few hours for a hardcore junkie.
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Ask me if I'd rather a child of mine became a prostitute or a banker, I'd probably have to say - what kind of prostitute? and what kind of banker?
But that wasn't what I asked. It was whether you'd be proud to tell everyone about it. If people asked some follow up questions about exactly what he does at the bank, you'd most likely be able to say something that sounded like it involved some praiseworthy faculties. I doubt you'd really want to answer too many follow up questions about the other game.
Well, OK, there could always be some brag value in "he's using his enormous inheritance", but don't forget that if he's for rent, it's not hard for people to check that out.
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Anyhoo, I'm just not comfortable with the notion that buying sex is simply another monetary transaction.
I pretty much agree. I don't think it should be illegal because that causes more problems, and I don't see any real point in judging the participants, but I don't really think we'd put it up there in our 'most desired outcomes' that we had created 20,000 more jobs for prostitutes, or that more girls felt more empowered to become prostitutes, or that every street has a brothel in it. It's just not that excellent a thing. I see it rather like gambling. It should be allowed, it should be controlled, and people who have troubles with it should be cared for and helped out of it, if they want that.
Perhaps a slightly easier way to see it - is it actually something you'd be proud to tell you family that your (grown up) kids were doing? Why not? What's inherently wrong with finding out your son is sucking cocks for a living? Or your daughter? Think on it. They're learning the value of hard work, earning a crust, doing something with a future. Or are they?
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Well-educated articulate sex-workers aren't exactly hard to find on the net.
Nor are really, really stupid ones, especially ones with totally drug addled minds. These are the career prostitutes, rather than the stepping stone ones.
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You can bring a huge camera if you like. I'm not promising any kind of show, other than "show up".
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Everything in the sex industry seems to be different, tonally, atmospherically, when women organise it for women. The 'going to the toilet' analogy might be a good one: men go alone, don't speak, don't make eye contact.
No, I don't think that men in strip clubs are that much different. Yeah there's definitely the sit-quietly-alone-and-watch types but there's plenty of drunken yahoo crowds too, having a big laugh about it all. But no touching, for fairly sound reasons.
Men will go to strip clubs just to have a drink, socialize, play some pool, chat to strangers, etc. But for-men brothels are all about the business. In NZ, that is. Perhaps a different model could work for women.
I'll believe it when I see it. People see watching and fucking as very different activities. They see other people doing it in a very different way too, and judge each very differently.
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So yeah, basically, it does seem that it can be different for the ladies.
Yup, that's a lot different. But it still sounds basically like stripping. The women who strip are also usually the ones with dancer-esque bodies, whereas prostitutes come in all sizes and shapes.
I do think, however, that women might find that a lot more satisfying than men do, that their idea of what even constitutes a sex act to be quite different. And if they like it, well then, who am I to say "but that's just a strip show"? It sounds like a lot more fun (for them) than guys seem to have in brothels, by accounts.
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I suppose, but of all the brothels I know of, they have only shut because of community upheaval. I'd suggest they are a pretty stable business.
The demand is probably stable, but I'm not so sure about the management. I've heard of several women losing everything because they mistakenly presumed having been in the business they were qualified to run it. So they were back to turning tricks without the advantages of youth. Sex capitalism is a hard system.
I would also make sure there is good parking.
The only good kind for a brothel would be undercover. People recognize their friends' cars.
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so as long as it is done properly, why would it not work?
Only because it never really has in NZ. That's why women are lamenting the absence of the service. If they'd been putting their money where their mouths are, I'm sure there would be lots of male brothels. What's been stopping it? The law and the patriarchy? It was illegal for women too, you know. Money? Well that's as much of a blocker now as it ever was. Or is it just a highly select and small market? Good on Pam if she can corner it, but is there any reason to expect her to have a clue how to run a male brothel, given the virtual absence of any existing models here to work from, and no credible experience on her part? It's not like brothels don't go broke.
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It all depends where Ben ties his black tie.
And how big the tie is. Note to self: Bring HUGE tie.
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