Posts by Graeme Edgeler
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Hard News: Making it up on smacking, in reply to Russell Brown,
I’m not sure why you’re responding to that part of my comment
I'm always with the facts. Especially in comments threads to posts about people getting facts wrong.
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Hard News: Making it up on smacking, in reply to Bart Janssen,
Because far from being used a a method for social change as Graeme is so disingenuously asserting, Section 59 was repealed to stop assault on children with deadly weapons.
Section 59 was not repealed. The level of force permitted by section 59 has not changed, merely the circumstances in which that level of force can be used.
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Hard News: Making it up on smacking, in reply to Chris Waugh,
Was it that late? By 1989 I had attended 7 schools and I honestly don’t recall ever being strapped or seeing or even hearing about anybody else being strapped.
Yes and no. That was when the law change was, but there had been a policy change a few years earlier which meant public schools at least had stopped.
We also finally abolished the death penalty in 1989, but the last execution was in 1957.
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Hard News: Making it up on smacking, in reply to Russell Brown,
That idiot Jimmy Mason in Christchurch, for example, who continued to maintain he had just given his son a “flick on the ear” when witnesses saw him punch his son in the face and he actually told the policewoman who arrived on the scene that he had done so.
Jimmy Mason was ultimately acquitted after the Supreme Court threw out his conviction.
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Hard News: Making it up on smacking, in reply to izogi,
I know plenty of young modern parents who appear, in my view, to be doing a great job bringing up their children without resorting to smacking them.
+1
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Hard News: Making it up on smacking, in reply to Hamish,
If you think the sky is falling, you need to provide the evidence.
I don't think the the Sky is falling. And if it ever does fall, it's probably not going to fall on respectable white middle class people like me.
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Hard News: Making it up on smacking, in reply to Russell Brown,
Did that come up before or after the compromises that were in the bill as it passed? The ones that specifically allow for the use of force to keep children and others safe? They seemed reasonable to me.
I believe it's a combination of the two.
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Hard News: Making it up on smacking, in reply to James W,
And we needs to stop using the word “smacking”. It’s hitting. It’s assault. “Smacking” is a word used to diminish the act, but it speaks volumes about our society that the only time it’s used is when it’s assault on children.
The word hitting is broader than the word smacking. I don't support doing either to children.
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Hard News: Making it up on smacking, in reply to James W,
Sorry, all I read was “everything else you said was correct but I can’t ever admit I’m wrong.”
We all make mistakes.
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Hard News: Making it up on smacking, in reply to Heather Gaye,
How would you decriminalise light smacking, but also reduce/prevent cases where a parent is acquitted for behaviour they’re likely to have gotten a conviction for, had the recipient not been their child?
I thought Chester Borrows' proposed amendment, as adopted in John Boscawen's member's bill was a reasonable first attempt at compromise legislation.