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Piracy is a problem, I agree
so what are we arguing about again?
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.a massive downturn in gig attendence in Chch....
and your logic is?
there's a massive amount of mullet wearing shifty fuckers down here simon. crims are your audience.
make a breaking and entering kit (crow bar, night vision goggles and some CSI gloves) part of the cd package and you'll be in the charts in no time. -
that unit sales are rising
define unit,
units were 10-12 songs ie an album
are units now single songs? just asking cos its something I'm not clear on. -
Is this some kind of Stupid Contest?
patience dear customer, some of these people are trying their best in very difficult new technology.
I personally tried to make a one click on line download story for my shitty home recordings, talked to heaps of 'knowledgeable' people who looked into it and deemed it too hard and had to consider a professional pay some one to do it option which cost so much I couldn't justify it.
I'm hoping it does become easy and viable cos its something I'd really like to offer and have control over but its not there yet, and I really have put a lot of effort into trying to make it happen. -
Yes, I know Mark questioned but I was meaning by myself.
is that what you mean by
Nobody has ever denied
meaning nobody of any significance, in which case I accept your statement.
But I don't think any act has ever lost a sale or a penny because I've done so and that covers most people downloading.
But you're not nobody simon, you're a very specific type of obsessive music collector, quite rare actually. in assuming everyone is like you you've made a huge mistake. Sadly, very few people are like you as far as spending on music goes.
in your rather confused spiral,
minor quibble for joe here, your spiral, you started it, you own it.
I'm still quite a spender on music but rarely buy albums at all anymore, and that, is the one pertinent thing you missed in that Guardian piece.
far be it from me to lecture you on business as you are a much wealther man from music than I'll ever hope to be but you're under playing the essences of what is going on here.
lets take our dairy example.
dairy sells cans of coke.
people illegally download coke into their pockets
dairy owner makes pretty display of cans of coke on a tshirt and builds in a margin to cover the theft of the can so the tshirt is now much more expensive than it should be and also chains the shirts to make em un-stealable.
thieving shifty youth see cans of coke as an iconic form and wants tshirt cos it looks cool, (slips and extra can in their pocket for the trip home) buys shirt.dairy owner makes exactly the same profit from before coke days as in post tshirt days but........
in a no coke can downloading world he would have been selling cans of coke and tshirts with cans of coke printed on them, his business would have expanded with his extra enterprise. instead he has had to accept the theft of coke cans as a loss leader and sell tshirts instead, he's in the same position he was in but with extra effort and although he has expanded his business he has seen no expansion in profit.
He started at point x
He added product which should have taken him to point y
Instead he's still at point xhis loss is the amount of profit he should see for his additional products.
Its nice that he's not out of business dead on the street but thats like saying I should feel grateful that when you robbed me you didn't break both my legs.
I know its better than being both robbed and being a cripple, but still, you're a little to nice to the crims in your picture, be it that we all are crims. -
Nope, never in 104 pages been quibbled about Rob
you haven't, you freely acknowledge it, by opening your eyes and looking around you. I think it was mark as questioner of all statistics not personally gathered by himself, as also noed by giovanni.
It's a bunch of opinions.
quite possibly, which is the conundrum isn't it? where the guardian who are a good enough paper to quote when their 'fact's support ones view point, but are questionable when their 'facts' don't.
yes people are finding different way to create income around music but that doesn't erase the income their not getting through 'illegal' downloads as lessig so rudely put it.
your spiral,
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Repeat...no-body has ever quibbled with that,
I'm pretty sure that everything has been "quibbled" about simon. its 104 pages long!!!
but we're all still wondering where the evidence that backs the vast losses allegedly caused by this
Well lets see if we can follow this logic, if we take lessig at his word and 70% of kids are illegally downloading, would that not reasonably follow that they were consuming product which they were not legally purchasing. What that figure might equate to is up for you professionals to quibble over but I'm guessing its probably greater than $1.
aside from that you'll have to question the guardian about where it gets its "facts" from.
its hard to know who to trust in this world of liers and cheats,
This sounds like one of your created death spirals and I refuse to be sucked into it, ......ow, go on then, maybe just one more.
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He couldn't handle Colbert's ribbing *in character*, which was rather odd
that was really really funny, and revealing.
loved colbert writing his own name on lessig's book and calling it his own. brilliant.70% of kids illegally download? what's he doing bandying about those statistics without an approved source sited?
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Sory, can't help it, I'm built that way.
Steve?
he says its an accurate description. -
It may not have been as explicit,
its all in the explicit Rich.
Brickley had a point with the correct use of the correct word, his time line was out, you proved that.
His point still stands. you think it pragmatic but remember you're in a comments section of a blog.
I half agree though, the murder word aspect of Brickley's post was the least interesting part of it, I personally noted it and moved on,
The Terrorism aspect was much more interesting, particularly the removal of its definition in nz. It is an overused tainted phrase. I'll think twice before I use it again.ill feeling goes both ways, Brickley had a point argued in good faith, and he should be treated with respect for that. if people find it boring and obvious, ignore it, a one sided discussion isn't discussion at all. people were discussing it with him because they wanted to, they got some kind of enjoyment out of it and they could easily stop and it would stop.