Posts by Jeremy Eade
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"I seriously thought, even hoped, that after Bill English National was finished, and it could nicely split into the various interest groups that it targets. So there would be a nice big Farmer's Party, a Business Party (maybe split into big and small business), an urban social conservative party etc. And Labour would do the same, breaking into an actual socialist party, a socially liberal party, one or more immigrant parties, a maori party etc. Then as voters we'd get more choice, a slightly more targeted selection."
Absolutely, we actually need a business party that has a progressive mantra...ya know even after the act party wouldn't dog in Telecom you just start thinking..where is the party of business?The party that deals to stagnation and monopoly.A party who wants better more efficient market relationships....and then where's the collective bargaining party, a party who can help groups negotiate with sensible strength, keeping wages real.
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"I interpret that as more Los Angeles 1992 than Paris 1968."
Yeh, that's what I meant . How long does it take to make a ghetto?
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"FYI I found 'organising one day in ways that may make you feel uncomfortable' amusing given my background as a non-violence organiser, based on theories about making power feel uncomfortable."
Sorry bud didn't mean to come across so heavy. I was alluding to organising in a social way not so much a politically structured way,
but here's to non-violence anyway.Yep, power needs to feel some heat or maybe we simply need some new power. -
"Heh, that's funny.People said similar things in 1968, and then it actually looked vaguely possible, unlike today.Sadly, despite what you can read on the Socialist Worker (and other) posters, the revolution isn't coming to NZ."
Yeh poverty, it's hilarious. I think we're talking about a different concept of revolution.I'm referring to the concept of revolution as change not the concept of revolution as inevitable class warfare, that's just scaremongering and useless.
1968. Wow these threads have been going along time.
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“Based on what woolly-arsed theory? Capitalism isn't looking like falling over in the next couple of decades.”
Yeh I love the way capitalism dealt to the health issues of the American public, stirring stuff. Look Kyle don’t take it so personally , you didn’t invent capitalism and of course the marketplace that capitalism serves is a natural extension of civilised interaction. Capitalism is a system of working the marketplace in order to make the market efficient,reactive and productive.
..and it’s supposed to be a progressive system which delivers progressive results yet here we are faced with “wooly arsed” economists predicting Gen x and y will face a standard of living inferior to the baby-boomer. That’s not the vision we were promised at school. Our teachers lied to us. It’s absurd to think we could be happy with a system that produces decreased over all wealth. Jesus at least be aspirational enough to want something better.
I’m not looking for a destruction of the marketplace, I like eating,…. more a repair job. The “timebombs” of a growing disenfranchised sector of the first world population are real (let alone the brothers and sisters outside our international trading clubs) and while we may be able to hide them in the “invisible’ suburbs for twenty years they just might start organising one day in ways that may make you feel uncomfortable.
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"Okay, so here's where the whole prospect of a counter-revolution that finally sticks it to those greedy bastards in the top 20% falls down: they can simply leave."
..to countries that are facing similar social inequalities that will be timebombs if not addressed. It's a matter of engaging the top 20% in matters of nation building as oppossed to entrenching market inefficiencies that serve them better than the poorly salaried majority who use their services and workplaces .It's a conversation that is well overdue and probably welcomed by some of them, at least the ones who back their markets as progressive and sustainable.
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"The question is, are we ready or willing for for a counter-revolution? Is there really any stomach for our version of a Bolivarian revolt against new right orthodoxy in New Zealand."
We would be if more people were afforded the decency of time and education to actually weigh the truth versus the bullshit. But WFF
is a nice reintroduction to the not so revolutionary idea that kids are needy. WFF is no luxury entitlement, it's just a better life for your kids until the day our wage market starts operating properly.Beneficaries .....we'll all be a beneficary if we live long enough and our tired bodies will be greatful of all benefits. Totally agree it's tragically invisible. Our politics are in a slow slog.
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As others have commented, Labour wasn't taking care of the needy in our society - Labour generally ignores the truly needy because they don't vote much and if they did they're hardly likely to support National."
WFF was needed and still is needed, income splitting would be good to.
The heath and care of our youngest citizens is imperative to better
future governance .Help them leave the slog we're in.Our youngest citizens are very needy. More money for the health of the child brain.
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"People have been swallowing, snorting and injecting various amhetamines for generations now. Life goes on. But methamphetamine, smoked, is just a bit too nice for some people.'
That sounds like you're trying to educate people about drugs Russell. Society doesn't need education, every knows we're to stupid for education, we just need to be scared endlessly about diary owners selling legal goods .Thanks lisa owen, I knew we weren't to blame.
but seriously If ya can't sleep enough and sleep regularly , whether it be (a) lcohol or p you have a drug problem. We need measurement and guidelines. We need dialogue from the obvious silent majority (do the math) who obviously get by on this stuff. Personally at 40 I like the daily trip into sleepland and it's wild regenerating power to want to screw with it but that's just me.
Education is the only way to start confronting any issue. Education and research are keys to all our closed doors yet we just keep endlessly butting our head against the drug door (of perception).
Drugs are amazing , we’re living to 80 or 90 and drugs can take a bow as a key ingredient in keeping us well from traditional illnesses that use to bowl us over. Look at the health benefits that legal drugs have provided us .
What we do understand about drugs is this. P is to speed what moonshine is to beer, a heavy overdose of a drug that has functioned socially and mentally at much lower diluted levels.
What goes up must come down. Watch that coffee and make sure you sleep.
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Just caught up with media7 shows 2 and 3.A real progression from a solid but slow show1. Very good show 2 and great show 3, the panels were interesting and rational, and it was nice to hear fresh political thought.
Love to see the political panel back to see if the gallery takes note of their excellent points about seeking out facts and extended dialogue in regard to the "slippery" and "waste" political messages .Our governing and wannabegoverning competitors need to be examined on message and strategy fast.
..and would love for barry coleman to come back and physically show the timeline of when articles were written predicting the present collapse of investment companies, I think that's what he was saying. How obviously bad are (were) these companies? What did those articles say?
Media 7 , looking good already.