Up Front: Gathered Together
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ChrisW, in reply to
The various speeches in support from those on the right - Banks, Henere, or Burrows are especially moving, given the expectation of a contrary view.
Suggest you listen again to Chester B*o*rrows’ speech. He wrong-footed me and many others while teetering on the pivot point between the ayes and noes, before falling back with the noes as in his second reading speech.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
Suggest you listen again to Chester B*o*rrows’ speech. He wrong-footed me and many others while teetering on the pivot point between the ayes and noes
I don't know what happened during that speech, but I feel dirty. And for sheer entertainment value, Tau Henare following (predictably vile and incoherent) Winston Peters and staking his claim to the Bitchiest. Straight. Man. Ever? Priceless. (Second Place: Maurice Williamson breaking out the science, and revealing that he'd last 2.3 seconds in eternal hell fire.)
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Good to see that the majority of parliamentarians can show some good sense once in a while despite some nasty opposition
On the other hand I wonder just how may same sex marriages there will be as apparently not may went into Civil Unions (anybody know the figures Google doesn’t seem to know)
Less and less heterosexuals have been availing themselves of their rights, so it will be interesting to see how the .07% (12000+ in the last counted census) same sex living together get hitched -
Craig Ranapia, in reply to
On the other hand I wonder just how may same sex marriages there will be as apparently not may went into Civil Unions
But as Maryan Street eloquently put it, that's not really the point. Speaking for myself, I've got zero interest in getting all Beyonce on anyone's arse. Put a ring on it, or don't. Become a CUP-cake, or don't. Live in sinful bliss or stage your own private production of Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, or don't. Do any or all or none of the above, with or without benefit of clergy (or other appropriate spiritual personage) as you see fit.
But don't you dare presume to make the choice for me. All I want is genuine equality before the civil law. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Raymond A Francis, in reply to
I agree, how people organise their own lives is their business, has always been my position
If they want to get married, great, if not, so what
That same sex (and all the other varieties) now have the same legal rights is something for all of us to feel good about -
Emma Hart, in reply to
On the other hand I wonder just how may same sex marriages there will be as apparently not may went into Civil Unions (anybody know the figures Google doesn’t seem to know)
But, as Craig said, it doesn't matter shit. Some laws are about standing up and making a statement about who we are as a nation. They're bigger and far more important than their on the ground practical effect. This is one of them.
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So I wonder of we will now see a whole bunch of conservative christians getting married in church but not in the new civil 'gay' marriage? it would be a strange turnabout
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Some highlights from last night. (Yes, I am hung-over, and yes my phone battery died before the night was out, yes I am still catching up.)
Surprise highlight of the third reading: Maurice Williamson.
Kevin Hague also made me cry like a little girl. I've seldom been prouder of my partner than when he sidled up to Kevin after the select committee hearing and apologised to him for the shit he'd had to listen to that morning.
The ayes voting paper and the nays voting paper. The number of proxies is... a thing. Two MPs changed their votes - David Bennett from no to yes, and Rino Tirikatene from yes to no. Nobody seems to know why in either case.
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
Some laws are about standing up and making a statement about who we are as a nation. They're bigger and far more important than their on the ground practical effect. This is one of them.
Thank you Emma.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Some highlights from last night. (Yes, I am hung-over, and yes my phone battery died before the night was out, yes I am still catching up.)
I figured you might be suffering, so I wrote a thing. :-)
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Russell Brown, in reply to
But, as Craig said, it doesn’t matter shit. Some laws are about standing up and making a statement about who we are as a nation. They’re bigger and far more important than their on the ground practical effect. This is one of them.
Quoted for truth.
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JoJo,
I feel quite fucking teary today. I've never thought that I'd want or be able to marry my partner - but now at least we can make that decision for ourselves.
My main reason for celebrating this is for the generations of Kiwis who will be born into a country where being gay isn't shown by legislation to mean 'less' or 'abnormal'. It might not make a difference right now for a kid who's being bullied or teased for being queer - but it will.
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Gee, in reply to
- but now at least we can make that decision for ourselves.
My main reason for celebrating this is for the generations of Kiwis who will be born into a country where being gay isn't shown by legislation to mean 'less' or 'abnormal'. It might not make a difference right now for a kid who's being bullied or teased for being queer - but it will.
so much this!!
thanks for another gem, emma -
Congrats to all. I'll let the music speak for itself.
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