The end of the road West
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Can I put in a good word for Pascalle, you miserable bastards?
She played the first three or four seasons as a pretty but empty head who was pretty much immune to hurt. Since then, we've seen at various times that she can be smart, tough, decisive -- and vulnerable.
Give the girl a break!
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Yeah, Pascalle has become more Loretta-like, and vice versa.
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I love all of them for being such honestly human characters - a tribute to the writers, actors and crew who brought them to life. I'm predicting tears at 9.30 tonight.
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Judd was not set up for this crime to slide off. He's been portrayed since the beginning of his romance with Cheryl as righteous, collected, decisive. Even a simple infidelity would have been hard to excuse, but one with the imprisoned partner's daughter comes across as an act of madness. But that's really a criticism of the writing - I don't find his infidelity that hard to believe in reality. Pascalle is attractive, her character acceptable to him, he was lonely, and angry with Cheryl for continuing to make things harder for herself. Their child had died, and it is unlikely that there would be any more with Cheryl. Things like this do actually happen.
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Has everyone forgotten that Judd's marriage to Monica ended after he had an affair with the wife of a criminal? This was pre-Cheryl.
He's no saint!
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I find Judd's motivation quite believable, recalling how Cheryl treated him at the time they lost Tama.
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Has everyone forgotten that Judd's marriage to Monica ended after he had an affair with the wife of a criminal? This was pre-Cheryl.
He's no saint!
Monica was horrible. Cheryl is great. Cheryl is nicer, overall, than Pascalle. Ergo, I think, audience sympathy was with him before and against him now, despite Cheryl's reaction to Tama's death.
Crying is a given. But nobody better be killing Hayden bloody Peters.
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Can I put in a good word for Pascalle, you miserable bastards?
You can, but I won't hear it. and I don't buy that if you had loved Cheryl, in all her staunch messed-upedness (it is TOO a word), you could fall for Pascalle.
I think Siobhan Marshall is fantastic, and yeah, the character has definitely grown. I just don't feel her.
Loretta on the other hand...
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I am with Russell in defense of Pascale and her malapropisms. The only thing which has been missing from OF is animals. There should have been at least one mongrel (unregistered, of course, and probably a rotweiler cross) and a three-legged cat.
Loretta seemed to lose her love of movies (and movie references) somewhere along the way.
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....and what will bogans use as their style guide now? At least we will see the end of that stupid The Rock promo.
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The only thing which has been missing from OF is animals. There should have been at least one mongrel (unregistered, of course, and probably a rotweiler cross) and a three-legged cat.
Awesome point. The local animal wranglers' union must also have been livid.
Loretta seemed to lose her love of movies (and movie references) somewhere along the way.
C'mon Geoff: there wasn't room for that and empathy. Something had to go.
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You can, but I won't hear it. and I don't buy that if you had loved Cheryl, in all her staunch messed-upedness (it is TOO a word), you could fall for Pascalle.
But the writers told me to ...
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C'mon Geoff: there wasn't room for that and empathy. Something had to go.
Watching her face break as she realised Pascalle was actually in love with Judd, and had...gone there....was my favourite moment of this season.
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Watching her face break as she realised Pascalle was actually in love with Judd, and had...gone there....was my favourite moment of this season
Yep.
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Interesting fact: in Outrageous Fortune scripts, right up to quite close to the show going into production, Loretta was the narrator of OF. Loretta's blogging was the bookend structure the machinations of the plot hung off.
The network, quite rightly pointed out that such a device might become a bit tiresome after a while and it was dropped.
Loretta's blogs continued as an online delight on the OF website.
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I don't buy that if you had loved Cheryl, in all her staunch messed-upedness (it is TOO a word), you could fall for Pascalle.
The two kinds of love could be completely different. Pascalle's was simpler. It was also available. The child's death would weigh a lot harder than they were ever able to write into the story. It's not an easy subject to deal with, in a show that has a penchant for comedy. On it's own, child-death has broken up 3 couples I have known. Some people never get over it.
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Well, sure there'll be tears. There have been tears in our house all the way through, on many occasions.
We cringed though, when Pascalle and Judd got together. No!No!No! we all cried, with not a tear in sight. You can't do that! What are you thinking?
I love Aaron. I especially loved the episode a couple of series back when he built Pascalle a special fitting in her bedroom, high as a kite on the drug the others were trialling. A masterpiece of writing and scene-setting.
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Can I put in a good word for Pascalle, you miserable bastards?
She played the first three or four seasons as a pretty but empty head who was pretty much immune to hurt.
And someone who didn't have a malicious bone or a grain of guile about her. If there were more fools like Pascalle West in the world, it would be an infinitely more agreeable place.
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I love Aaron. I especially loved the episode a couple of series back when he built Pascalle a special fitting in her bedroom, high as a kite on the drug the others were trialling. A masterpiece of writing and scene-setti
Also drugs, as I recall. The Excellence storyline fizzled out a bit though.
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Interesting fact: in Outrageous Fortune scripts, right up to quite close to the show going into production, Loretta was the narrator of OF.
O to tha M to tha G.
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I'm finding it curious that the males are much more sympathetic to Pascalle than the females here. But I have also found interesting comments in the past which hinted that Jethro was more attractive than Van. Same deal?
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The network, quite rightly pointed out that such a device might become a bit tiresome after a while and it was dropped.
That kind of thing happens more often than you might think -- the pilot of Six Feet Under had these rather clunky interstitial ads for undertaking products, and a Potter-esque song and dance number. Alan Ball said they weren't done again because tonally they just didn't work.
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James Griffin lists some of his own fave scenes. Hope he drops in here some time this eve, between rum and cokes.
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I'm finding it curious that the males are much more sympathetic to Pascalle than the females here. But I have also found interesting comments in the past which hinted that Jethro was more attractive than Van. Same deal?
I suspect so. I'm on the other side of both those debates with Emma and Megan.
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I'm going to go visit one of my favorite locations from the show, just beforehand. I may even homage it again, by doing as Van and Munter would, serenely reflecting on life whilst gazing out at the city across the water. Amongst other things.
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