Speaker: Correcting Auckland 2040's Unitary Plan befuddlement
146 Responses
First ←Older Page 1 2 3 4 5 6 Newer→ Last
-
Sacha, in reply to
Or do you have blind support for developers, who are responsible for many failed developments in the past, to do a better job in the future?
Not without strong regulation and assertive partnerships with council staff at the right level. Wideboy property developers interacting with junior planning clerks will never produce sustainable results.
-
Glenn Pearce, in reply to
Interestingly, Housing New Zealand have filed a legal submission to the Hearing Panel, arguing that many of the out of scope changes are in fact in scope of HNZ's cynical submission requesting individual HNZ properties are upzoned.
They may be nervous that the IHP will throw out the Out of Scope changes and HNZ's upzone requests along with it.
-
Ian Dalziel, in reply to
auf wiedersehen, bro ...
Wideboy property developers interacting with junior planning clerks will never produce sustainable results.
...there's gotta be a tv series in it, at least?
Hell, an opera! -
Kumara Republic, in reply to
...there's gotta be a tv series in it, at least?
Hell, an opera!Queensland's White Shoe Brigade is an obvious example. I haven't yet found if the Aussies have made a soap opera or mini series of it. Maybe it's just a matter of time.
-
Swan, in reply to
How cynical of housing New Zealand to want to build more houses for poor people.
-
Glenn Pearce, in reply to
They're increasing the value of the land so they can sell them. Do you seriously think the National Government will build on them and increase their housing stock?
Similar to the way the Ministry of Education has had the special zone for schools removed in the Unitary Plan and schools have been rezoned residential so they can be sold.
-
Swan, in reply to
Ministry of Ed is naximising the value of their land and fair enough. It gives them more flexibilty to efficiently use rheir capital. They have only asked for ths zoning to match adjacent zoning. As for HNZ they are one of the biggest developers in Auckland. Upzoning their properties will make it more likely they can use them. They are short of smaller units.
-
Glenn Pearce, in reply to
HNZ did not request they matched surrounding properties, they requested spot rezoning of individual properties.
As Russell says above,
anomalous and inappropriate
, not to mention against planning best practice.
There is no justification for schools in Central Auckland that have recently had ~100 million$ in new building work completed and are bursting at the seams to be rezoned as residential.
-
Swan,
No justification? Surely it is up to the Ministry to decide if they need a particular piece of land for education purposes, not the council? Whats it git to do with the council they arent responsible for education.
I dont find mixed housing urban to be innapropriate in a suburb within a few ks on Aucklands CBD. The most important thing here is the fact we have a housing crisis, not the feng shui of gables down a cul de sac.
-
Marc C, in reply to
Housing NZ is keen to up-zone for various reasons. In some cases it allows them to build more blocks of units or apartments, which they have already started in some places in Three Kings in Auckland, same as other places, and in other cases it allows them to sell properties that they prefer to sell for the best prices.
I wish that people representing Housing NZ, same as politicians and local body representatives would stop talking about "houses" when they go on about "social housing" that they want built. That is simply very dishonest, as in more and more cases we will not be talking about houses, but units that are in multi-level residential dwellings.
Politicians from both sides of the fence do the same misleading of the public. Future "social housing", and that includes remaining state housing, that is going to be developed, will in increasing numbers be multi-unit developments, possibly up to four levels, perhaps in some cases more.
"Homes" may be more appropriate for that, but that does not mean people needing affordable housing will get houses, they will most likely get units or small apartments, mostly without any garden use.
"Houses" sounds so nice, so many out there think, hey, here we go again, tax-payers pay nice homes for those that could not bother saving for it themselves. The BS that goes around never seems to end.
-
Sacha, in reply to
possibly up to four levels
three
-
Sacha, in reply to
Hell, an opera!
gizza job, bro
-
Sacha, in reply to
schools have been rezoned residential so they can be sold
important point, that.
most folk have no idea what is being done in our names. -
linger, in reply to
Ministry of Ed is maximising the value of their land and fair enough.
Are you saying that's the main purpose of a Ministry of Education? Having sunk money into developing a school as a school, what is the point of then selling it off? 'Cause privatisation is not exactly working out effectively for anyone so far.
-
Marc C, in reply to
If it is zoned Terrace Housing and Apartment Building (THAB) it will be up to 5 or seven stories, and some Housing NZ properties are proposed to be THAB, as I understand it. Or have they an official kind of policy to only build up to three levels? I know of no such policy by HNZ.
-
Swan, in reply to
It sounds like you are trying to redefine house to mean standalone dwelling with a garden. Good for you but not veey helpful.
-
Swan, in reply to
Im not saying it is its main purpose. But the Ministry of Ed owns a lot of property and has budget constraints. If it wants to sell off a slice of an underused field to pay for classroom renovations thats a choice they can make.
-
Russell Brown, in reply to
I see two levels, if there is a garage under the ground, or half under the ground in perhaps one home, that does not equal a three storey residential home, I would think, certainly not for the majority on the photo.
To be fair, all the garages are at street level, not underground.
-
Sacha, in reply to
If it wants to sell off a slice of an underused field to pay for classroom renovations thats a choice they can make.
once. limited supply of land, hence schools are always planned many years ahead and large plots are banked for that.
-
Russell Brown, in reply to
As Russell says above,
anomalous and inappropriate
, not to mention against planning best practice.
The main problem with what Housing NZ is (still) seeking in our street isn't height, it's that there actually isn't enough room in the cul sac. It's already often only wide enough for one car to pass when residents are parked up.
I would fully expect Housing NZ to redevelop at least two of its properties under MHS (one's a small house on a large section), although it might also decide to cash up and take the millions. But MHU is too much. MHU has been significantly expanded in Point Chev in the PAUP, but it's all on or near main roads.
There is no justification for schools in Central Auckland that have recently had ~100 million$ in new building work completed and are bursting at the seams to be rezoned as residential.
There's critical pressure on school capacity in Western bays as it is. The ministry has actually done the opposite in Point Chev – finally releasing the pressure on the local primary by skittling several adjacent houses around the corner from us to make a new site for the kindergarten currently co-located at the school.
Of course, it would have helped had the ministry allowed Point Chev primary to build two-storey blocks like it wanted to several years ago.
-
Russell Brown, in reply to
Im not saying it is its main purpose. But the Ministry of Ed owns a lot of property and has budget constraints. If it wants to sell off a slice of an underused field to pay for classroom renovations thats a choice they can make.
This isn't the case in the central suburbs, though – certainly not those west of Queen Street. I wrote about the local school capacity crisis in 2011.
That said, I'm happy for Unitec to rationalise its facilities and develop the parts of its rambling site it no longer needs. That makes sense.
-
Sacha, in reply to
Whats it got to do with the council they arent responsible for education.
Schools are crucial social infrastructure that council planners must take into account.
-
Sacha, in reply to
If it is zoned Terrace Housing and Apartment Building (THAB)
Which is proposed to be 6% of the total, for context.
-
Does the rezoning of the schools as residential mean they need to conform to the residential development controls for built form?
I understand the current zoning of schools means they can pretty much do what they like in the built form (subject to budget constraints)
-
Glenn Pearce, in reply to
Have you had a look at the new map for Coxs Bay? All MHU in the cul de sacs behind Countdown, mad.
Post your response…
This topic is closed.