OnPoint: Re: Education
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Isn't the "wisdom of the crowd" when you put something out there, and if someone kills it dead with credible argument, you listen?
(I think the actual argument there is that the application of the standards probably averages out. But whether *that* result reflects the students' progress or the quality of the emergent standards...)
I think the editorial is actually referring to being able to draw useful conclusions from a mass of data points, which is called, um, statistics.
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Sacha, in reply to
A vocal lobby
the peasants are revolting, sir
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Sacha, in reply to
Wisdom of the crowd is when a large group answers the *same* question. Not thousands of tenuously-related questions because there is in fact no standardisation in these 'standards'.
What is the Herald actually trying to justify?
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Sacha, in reply to
And the original point was that reading by dads is a proxy for a relationship with fathers that is significant in many ways. It's not actually about literacy.
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Sacha, in reply to
A high priesthood of data analysis
That's just insecure whinging.
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My 5 year old came home with her NS report yesterday. The 40 week report and she has only been at school 30 weeks. Not terribly relevant.
By the way, we have read to her from birth and if someone is reading a book out loud in her vicinity she will drop whatever she is doing and rush over to hear it. However, she was nowhere near reading before she started school. Everyone learns at their own pace. I came to NZ when I was almost six with no english, so I had to learn the language and to read and write it at the same time. So my view is that there is plenty of time as long as the support and encouragement is there.
A final point, my daughter's teacher tells us that the standard expected of our children now is much higher than when we were at primary school.
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Martin Lindberg, in reply to
A high priesthood of data analysis
That's just insecure whinging.
Indeed.
I don't mean to belittle Keith's analysis, but this really is entry-level statistics. (I guess Keith alluded to that by referencing high-school books.)
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mic weevil, in reply to
this really is entry-level statistics.
it extremely advanced journalism to whine about academic standards while disregarding the academic critique of their statistical basis by elitist "priests". um, maths is a science, nowadays, granny Herald.
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Pah! reading's not important anyway,if you don't read anything then you don't have to answer questions about it or know what truth is, or anyfink.
See, I could be PM one day...
Now there's worry.
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How would the NZ Herald go if there was an annual report on Journalistic Standards that only looked at a couple of aspects of their performance? Like cleanliness of keyboards, or numbers of words per article containing more than 5 letters.
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Meanwhile, an elitism row has erupted at Macleans College.
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