Hard News: TV list show in "doesn't suck" shock!
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regarding drugs, music and the youtube generation...
...have you guys posted/chatted about 'colourway' records the STh Aux hiphop label and alleged money laundering arm of the killa bees and tribesmen gangs ?
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"...have you guys posted/chatted about 'colourway' records the STh Aux hiphop label and alleged money laundering arm of the killa bees and tribesmen gangs ?..."
I am not entirely sure if that subject fits with the age and demographical profile of PA.
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Salvia.........Saliva.....doh!
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I am not entirely sure if that subject fits with the age and demographical profile of PA.
aww man i hate it when i'm the only brown guy in the room :)
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giovanni: don't say that, or we'll have Jim Anderton trying to ban gnocchi as drug paraphanalia...
I'm not worried, I make my own. Unless you think he'd go as far as to restrict the sale of the main ingredient - then I might have to resort to buying pseudopotatoes.
Call TVNZ, we might have the beginnings of a truly unfunny skit here.
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aww man i hate it when i'm the only brown guy in the room :)
Cheer up. At least you're not the only one from Christchurch ...
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"...have you guys posted/chatted about 'colourway' records the STh Aux hiphop label and alleged money laundering arm of the killa bees and tribesmen gangs ?..."
I am not entirely sure if that subject fits with the age and demographical profile of PA.
Not so much of that, but really just another boring drug bust, of a bunch of idiots, who think it is a good idea to label themselves "killer whatever.Also their main man had recently been on Cambell live to protest their gangs innocence in another violent activity.I really don't understand how importance is placed on drug busts,and why that is our news..
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In American supermarkets, you can buy isopropyl in one litre bottles. I'm fairly sure you can also get pseudo-ephedrine based cold tablets in American-sized packets, or at least you could until fairly recently. You can also get 5-HTP in the equivalent of Woolworths, which points to a thriving drug culture, I feel.
On a related topic, I taxied through Manukau this morning, and noticed they have a new welcome board and council slogan:
Progressive, Proud and Prosperous (we got the 'P', bro!)Finally on the subject of precursors, according to a Brisbane tourist guide, there is a new bar in that city called __Sassafras__.
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That 'p' 4 square story felt quite CNNNN (an ABC news spoof). It wasn't great journalism and I actually felt sorry for that dairy owner but he was so stupid. To be fair to TV One I think we should be monitoring the sale of iso and other such chemicals. Anything to reduce the amount of that insidious drug on the steets.
I'm usually all for legalisation and freedom of choice etc but P is pretty shit.
As for Salvia, well no one ever seems to want to do it more more than twice and its a hell of a lot less freaky than herbals. Its just abut the most harmless way one can experience something akin to LSD. If your gonna ban it you might as well ban nutmeg at the same time. Or canned whipped cream.
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most interesting angle is the recruiting of youngers using hiphop and youtube/bebo/myspace...
...ultimate proof if any were needed that disillusioned young polynesians identify more with hiphop street culture than their own traditional ones and that core values have been well and truly supplanted
hiphop is the new brown religion...
...scary eh ??? bet michael laws is shitting in his bed
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If your gonna ban it you might as well ban nutmeg at the same time. Or canned whipped cream.
..... or poppy seeds
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I don't know if this is the correct one, Craig, but Labelle's costumery, as a group, was uniformly Teh Awesome.
Lordy, no. I can't find it, but the head-gear was absolutely terrifying. But oh how I miss music television which involves a live audience of awkward white people desperately trying to be fonky. (Then again, anyone trying to hoist their freak flag higher than this pack of funkateers is doomed to failure.)
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So you admit you know nothing about it, but take the opportunity to have a crack at the journalist anyway?
I know often the media grossly inflate the dollar value of drugs (I think the police do too, so it's all a lot more scandalous) but in this case she's roughly correct. In fact, given that most dealers will put a lot less than a point (0.1 of a gram) into the average point bag, you can probably get a bit more than 10 x $100 point bags from each gram.
I thought - and still think - the price sounds implausible and uneconomic especially given the ease of manufacture and apparent widespread use of the drug. How could a drug that is at least twice as expensive as cocaine become endemic in New Zealands poor and rural areas?
So I (discretely) asked a couple of grad students in my lab how much they bought it for - they said they wouldn't pay over $40 a point.
Maybe there's an Auckland bubble.And I thought the rest of the story (which was amusing, I'll give you that) was about pointlessly persecuting a small business owner who hadn't broken any laws. Supermarkets also sell large quantities of solvents and other drug precursors no questions asked, but they also have large legal teams and spend a lot of money advertising during One News, so best to give them a free pass.
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A moral panic is just going to market it to a mainstream audience, and there's probably no one who wants that, or for a whole new class of criminal to be created out of a few harmless people who want to explore their heads.
My impression is that the hallucinogenics don't seem to form the economic basis for a great deal of the nastier criminal activity (compared to p). Maybe because they're not addictive.
I quite liked the odd bit of LSD. It's always a bit embarrassing to find enlightenment in carpet patterns but that's a small price to pay for a bit of entertainment.
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As someone who doesn't believe in drug prohibition I'd take a completely different attitude to the Salvia and P-precursors story:
If people can't get good drugs, they'll resort to what they can get - Salvia (which might or might not be a bad idea) and making Meth out of household substances (which probably is).
It's impossible to control the supply of every possible substance that can be abused (petrol-sniffing is endemic amongst some Australian communities).
Thus, a system of education and control that allows people to make an informed choice of what to ingest is way better than the current failed blanket prohibition.
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grad students ... wouldn't pay over $40 a point
So, rather than turning into Antoine Dixon, people who occasionally do P are still able to pursue advanced study. I think that's more of a story than small shopkeepers selling household solvents.
But you wouldn't see that on Social Control TV...
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But you wouldn't see that on Social Control TV...
Just as Tony Dixon was always gonna be Tony Dixon,TV could also have run an angle of "He was fed up with what P had done to himself and girlfriend, she wouldn't stop manufacturing so he saw chopping off her hand as the only way to stop her then he went to find the buyer/dealer/user that was part of the problem(.SST might want to give him a medal) Not sure what story is news,good or bad but I think ummm, no take it back, Doctor Who is on.
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For one glorious moment i thought I had a hallucinogen in my garden....
Been collecting & growing salvias for ages, but no...apparently s. divinorum rarely produces viable seed & has to be grown from cuttings or layering. bugger. I'm betting some collectors will have it tho.Cracks me up how folks on here never claim they didn't inhale.
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Sorry R of O,I just wanted to point out that I think it is a difficult situation to think an informed choice will make any difference to ability to use substances.Everyone reacts differently to the next person because we are all different , and while we might like the idea of 'stuff' being controllable through education, it aint.The general point to taking a substance is the experimentation.Also it's not always a case of if you can't get good drugs you take what you can get.Often it is the no. 8 fence wire mentality in NZ.We like to use that wire;) Although having said that,Amsterdam has had some success in dealing with drug education.They do, however consider drug addictions as a social sickness. A different perspective.I think I went off the news thing a bit:)
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Thinking of common things you can ban because their psychedilic potential don't forget the rind of Stilton cheese. Apparently you need to consume quite a lot of it and I have never had any effects from the small amounts adhering to the portions of loveliness on my oat biscuits. But if a shroom can do it, any funghus can.
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I ate a whole lot of unpasturised Stilton and i did feel a little odd.
Parsley can trip you out a bit, as can cough syrup of course. Cough syrups I have not taken but I have spent an evening with a man who drank two bottles. He went insane and wanted to have an orgy. Unluckily for him we were all completely sober and un-cough syruped so there was zero to no sexiness. Boy, he was having a good time in his head though.
The great thing about banning all these drugs is the ridiculous abundance of 'gold top' mushrooms freely available in and around parliament between march and may of every year. Look out for trench coat wearing BA students out side the reserve bank at 7am on a Monday morning. They're not searching the shrubberies for inflation figures.
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So I (discretely) asked a couple of grad students in my lab how much they bought it for - they said they wouldn't pay over $40 a point.
Maybe there's an Auckland bubble.
Who knows? Although I suspect a point is a malleable measure.
But your story does illustrate something else: you can smoke some meth of a weekend and still be a grad student. It's just that the particular combination of drug and means of administration has a regrettably high hit rate in creating addicted munters.
People have been swallowing, snorting and injecting various amhetamines for generations now. Life goes on. But methamphetamine, smoked, is just a bit too nice for some people.
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One thing that is obvious is that humanity in general is simply obsessed with getting of its collective head and to that end has tested pretty much everything natural for such possibilities. Please, a moment of silence for all those who have fallen in this endeavour.
Many may have been the side effect of hunger and I suspect various psychedelic shrooms fall into that. But Stilton rind? Maybe you have to be already light headed from starvation for the proper effect. Or perhaps simply ketotic. Anyone on the Atkins diet around? Though where would Stilton rind fall in the food group sense?
Which of course simply makes the 'war on drugs' simply futile as America's experience during prohibition amply demonstrates. Why nobody learns that lesson wrt other ways of getting of your head is beyond me, except that it likely has a lot to do with a religious impulse to forestall anything that might lead to people enjoying themselves, or dancing.
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your story does illustrate something else: you can smoke some meth on a weekend and still be a grad student.
...and it's tolerated but you cant be poor and living in sth aux.
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aww man i hate it when i'm the only brown guy in the room :)
It could be worse:
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hahaha...classic
bet that boney m dude got so much pussy dressed like that. Which raises the point that i don't mind being the only brown guy in a room full of white women.
oops... can i say that round here ?
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