Hard News: The sole party of government
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Alfie, in reply to
Thanks Alfie - all good reasons to flick over to TV3 for news too. We suspected it was likely to be more professional. Really stayed with TVOne at 6'oclock because we liked the weather graphics :-)
Snap! We continued to record One News for a while for that very reason. However we adapted to the TV3 weather style after a while - backed up by MetService and MetVUW, of course. ;-)
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Brian Edwards take. Everyone seen this?
http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/some-acting-experience-advantage-not-required-ck-162882#comments
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Thanks Farmer Green a very interesting take from Edwards who has a lot of experience in this. His pragmatic conclusion is rather sad though.
On another note re the Greens .
Garth Morgan is proposing a Blue Green PartyTime for Labour to decline and a wider Green party or parties to emerge?
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Jack Harrison, in reply to
So Edwards is just saying, “politics is U.S style" now. Our political media report on us like we are the 53rd state of America. Fox news style for the ratings. Can’t we shape our own media culture?
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
...., will turn on National at some time in the future. And they will want another team - not to different - and I don't think it's going to be the Greens. The Greens just don't play football.
The next recession will see off National, they can't do the recovery thing well, no grand plans for all to fall in behind, just the few, for profit, which is what is happening in Christchurch.
And when the rats have left the sinking ship, as they always do, Fay, Richwhite et al and we are left with a stinkin' hole of a wasteland, Labour will come riding in on a wave of hope and glory, led By a Man who has the Knowledge to cope with our new found state, refugees in our own land. David Shearer is that man.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
Just my 2c.
Yep. I still shout at 3 tho. Campbelll in my opinion proves he has mana. I think he tried “gotcha” once and that didn’t turn out well or at least well respected by me. Thing is the Campbell crew get out and check out what the peeps think. Not what that Hosking thinks. That talking head may as well preen in front of a mirror for all he cares about others.
We watched the Election at a friends who works in TV News. We had both channels on with vox turned down on one of them. Finally toward the end after prompting ,she admitted the graphics were good with the opposition. Twas a hard task ;) Truth is they both falter but I think 3 seems more relaxed. But they got the “gotcha” and I hate that. -
Why him over Grant Robertson - I saw him discussing Jude Collins resigning on tv and he was mighty impressive. He seemed commanding without being smug and self satisfied.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
Why him over Grant Robertson – I saw him discussing Jude Collins resigning on tv and he was mighty impressive.
Grant has learnt from one of the best HC. He could try . He will be villified by the likes of Kiwibog and Slimes one and the conservatives and the paranoid but any of them could try to seek support.
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Jack Harrison, in reply to
Look, as much as it may feel silly, it’s gonna be a lot about media liking you.
That’s the filter now, that’s why Blair made an arrangement with Murdoch so many yeras ago. Labour need a media darling leader and a media arrangement.
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Alfie, in reply to
We watched the Election at a friends who works in TV News. We had both channels on with vox turned down on one of them.
We did the same thing in London with some BBC folk back in '87. Our little group of like-minded folk was expecting a change, but Thatcher's lot won again. It was depressing at the time. A little like our recent election.
I can't stand Hosking and for a while it seemed like TV3 were geared up to take over the serious current affairs mantle. While The Campbell Show is without doubt the best we have at the moment, TV3 went and spoiled it by giving that little creep Henry his own show.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
We did the same thing in London with some BBC folk back in ’87. Our little group of like-minded folk was expecting a change, but Thatcher’s lot won again. It was depressing at the time.
Around the world my friend, around the world.
TV3 went and spoiled it by giving that little creep Henry his own show.
What's that about? Maybe Farrar and Oil's lot like him but he offends half the country Oz kicked him out and TVNZ were appalled on behalf of the public. Are we short on talent?
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tussock, in reply to
Yeh. There's studies show poor people are much better with money than rich people. They just have much less margin for error and relatively higher unexpected costs, and to survive at all they have to get good at it.
"Eating well" is largely defined by each culture as eating the things only rich people can afford, while the poor get by on highly efficient calories per dollar without even thinking hard about it, because you know what fills you up given how little you have left after the final warning bills are paid.
I fondly recall some middle class reporter person on the TV "experiencing" poverty for a while, trying to live on the benefit, only without giving up their just-serviced, new, fuel-efficient cars, their nice suits, a thousand other things poor people just don't have, and thinking all they'd have to do is switch to the cheap steak and they'd last the week alight.Then running out of money on Wednesday, fuel on Thursday, but not to worry because you've got those $2000 bicycles in the garage for the whole family you'd forgotten about, and you can just use them for the last day. Cupboards started to get a bit bare by Friday, so gave up and ate out. LOL. Easy. What? Supposed to live the weekends too? Nah, the kids have sport, and they're already grumpy.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
The one and only concession I'll give Pull ya Benefit is this, Bear in mind I'm already weary and suspicious but after Campbell Live did a report on the difficulties that the working class poor face with regards bills piling up, Bennett promised to introduce loans with standard interest rates so the loan sharks would be stifled.I think it was a WINZ thing. That's actually good as it will be readily available advice and entitlement and is a benefit that can also be accommodating as to debt in that people can get assistance. People can get bits of Benefit so working poor need a voice. Or just make sure a kid gets the benefit and then the family can get a kickstart.. That's as good as she gets but it's doable. I have no wish to sound condescending but I'll help anyone get it if she passes the bill.
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There were tears and hugs outside Independent Fisheries' Christchurch factory today.
About 200 workers found out they would lose their jobs as the fishing company announced it would close the Woolston plant on December 18.
Thanks John.
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Jack Harrison, in reply to
The lending environment for the poor , special needs teaching as a profession and the free doctor visits for our kids needs to happen tomorrow. Hurry up National. These are essential. This is your promise.
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krothville, in reply to
"If compulsory voting is adopted, there surely should be a ‘no vote’ option also."
Yes ok. Spoil it if it works for you e.g Fuk John Key :)
Well, I think that if used properly, it would give a bit more information about people. I.e., if people tick no confidence, then that would seem to suggest that they have looked at the options, and have no confidence in any of them, whereas 'no vote' seems to suggest that they're really just not that fussed about the election.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
I meant spoil as in deface so, yeah.
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krothville, in reply to
Yeah, I got your meaning :)
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So Edwards is just saying, “politics is U.S style” now. Our political media report on us like we are the 53rd state of America. Fox news style for the ratings. Can’t we shape our own media culture?
Does the US have 50 or 52 states?
Online voting - I'd like to see this made an option for people where going to the polling booth is not an option - overseas, disability or mobility issues, extreme distance from a polling booth (people that live on isolated islands etc). I like the idea of online voting but Emma points out a potential problem that we should learn more about.
I would like to see online voting for local body elections. It would be at least as secure, but could be made more secure than posting out papers and having people return them, but also it would make vote counting under STV much easier. If people could have it as an option (like with the census) as a first step.
In terms of Labour-Greens, I'd like to see them work together to have a common flagship policy, and a common flagship income policy to pay for it. Eg, an agreed plan to combat poverty, costing half a billion dollars per year, and an agreed CGT which would pay for it.
This would align the two parties and make it clear their ability to work together post-election. It would also have them arguing from the same sheet when it came under attack from other parties, and make it more convincing that it wasn't fringe policy.
I hate suggestions for no confidence and 'no vote' options. Why go to the effort of getting people in the polling booth and then having them not vote? Just don't make them go there in the first place. Voting should be a thing you do because you want to have a say.
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Jack Harrison, in reply to
I like what your saying.
Compulsory voting is still an alternative to the “politics is not for me” million non- votes ,because it is about them. Big time.
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Does the US have 50 or 52 states?
Surely Australia must be a State by now?
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
Surely Australia must be a State by now?
A few things to be worked out first. Back at the height of the Pauline Hanson phenomenon there was a proposal that a referendum be held on whether Queensland should secede from the Commonwealth, with all Australians getting to vote on the issue.
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There are 50 states in the United States of America. Although Puerto Rico is going to have a referendum sometime for becoming the 51st.
The 50 states are:
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
There are 50 states in the United States of America.
Hang on!
Where's Catatonic ?;- )
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The sad thing is Washington D.C is a bit of a basket case for crime. Well it was when I was there. I assume some endeavours have been done to help the strange ignored status of America’s capital. I don’t know much about Puerto Rico.
But yes 50 states. I see. Thanks.
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