Hard News: The back of a bloody envelope
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tiso-sama,
c'mon, don't take it so personally ;-)
there was obviously not room for the both of us.
my subconscious warnings from the future must have seen all but deepest parnell turning into a giant slag heap. so there ya go, not your fault after all. pls remind me to change homeopathists. -
Sofie, webweaver,self right in your corner: it's just none of this is a surprise?
Oh darlin',I have no surprise ma fren, I mentioned exact same shit 2 years ago on a David Slack post and sent my apology to Craig then, but hey, my distrust is confirmed and sometimes after a few wines it really does sadden me to think we have such discrimination in a society that I cherish.
By the way Islander, Congrats on your Agriculture settlement claim with Nga(i?) Tahu :)
Good luck to yous. I wanna try those super size me oysters.
El Nina/o considering :) -
Sofie - they oyyyssssstersss -O! drool all over the keyboard! Again!
The agriculture thing isnt done & dealt quite yet, but come south - we can try the wee buggers straight outa their shells!
Er, if we get south to Bluff-
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Lets not forget our heritage now.
I do find it interesting that for all the beautiful Poms I know, I do understand them quite well. They show a love for our country that has taught me how valuable it is. I thank them for that . My friend's "get well"card today said "stiff upper an' all that.Remember you're British. I thought how can they ever forget.
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Um Sof' and Steve?
Unrequested but very well-intentioned positive thoughts arriving your end of teh intertubes -right now- -
RichO, k, you're right on the time line. My perception is, I guess, that he had mentally defected well before he was sacked, which was why he was sacked. Too much speaking out about how lying about election promises was a really bad thing to do. Basically his finest hour.
Perhaps he was cynical about it all, knew what they were going to do and saw how he could make a big play. But I actually don't credit him with that much brilliance. Seems to me, he was actually just gutted. I don't think National runs such a tight ship that they can't have people within their party being gutted and saying so publicly. That was my point re: Kaye. And I think it's a good thing.
Islander, I guess I'm just not that cynical. I think people can change, politics can change, and yes, even National can change. A little bit, and slowly, but still...
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I suppose BenWilson, it is the ancientness of my experience (which is solid experience, and shows no sign of Nats ever being anything else except a party for the rich & privileged. You know, it includes stuff breathed into my infant ear about Mickey Savage...)
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Well 3rd reading an' all.Then the iwi for the South all sang ( what is that called?) but I had muted by then. so I suspected it was an historical moment so thought it was signed sealed and delivered. Hey I just want the oysters in the Bribi/ Barnes house hold ;)Kia Ora, kia ora ka tou. Is that how you say it?
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Sofie - Kai Tahu in the mainland, Ngai Tahu for us northerners.
Hope you're right by Sunday
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stuff breathed into my infant ear about Mickey Savage
Got to earn a burial spot like this
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Y'know if I ever met you girl (which will happen), I would probably cry, then, open the champagne.Why ?Just because.;)
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Ooo. I like his official portrait (small size for humble families) that hung above my Nanna's pin-cushion, better.
We are talking about our nearly-dead lake, known more widely as "Ellesmere" I take it? We've been trying for literally bloody decades to organise good sea-ingress, and and stopping phosphate & other nasties' runoff. That place used to be one of our food-baskets, and it is now eutrophic and severely damaged.
We have won a small victory - but power-boat clubs and - especially- dairy farmers will continue to fight on.
Sacha - it's Kai Tahu south of the Waitaki (Ngai Tahu for yes, the Northerners!) I'm southern bred for generations (even if I live for - a while longer- over on Tai Poutini-)
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Hey, we appreciate tears!
We'll swap 'em (maybe not the hupe!) and then we'll share a really good champane- I look forward to it! (All your lot coming south!) -
Puts on the plankton ring, will go to bed cheerful-
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Sacha,YesI have been sick but the card I mentioned was my friends card, not me. I is going Sunday . Have you seen the boat/ship/ whatisit? You gotta come. Bring your work with you, we can help. ;)))
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Maurice Williamson with tits
Gah! The image! It burns!
Cheese and crackers, Bart. And now we've passed into the second stage of WhaleOily Kiwiboggery: Those who disagree with me are not only stupid and evil, you're corrupt whores whose only interest in in lining your own pockets. What next: John Key's dead grandmother is running up one hell of an cell phone bill?
Craig, no offence and all, but: if you were an auto-commenting perl script, you couldn't be more predictable in these threads. It's like: database of tu quoque fallacies, meet database of more or less amusing sexual imagery. Combine.
Could we lay off the moral equivalencies, just for a moment? Because Key is Hitler.
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his official portrait (small size for humble families) that hung above my Nanna's pin-cushion
I doubt we'll ever have another leader whose photo graces most homes
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couldn't be more predictable
right wing government
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Below, an excerpt from Dad's letter to the Herald:
Mining for rare earth metals on Stewart Island is on the Government's to-do list. Mr Brownlee quotes rare earths as worth up to $300-$500 per kilo. Only the two rarest (Europium and Terbium) of the fourteen are worth anything like as much.
Lynas Corporation and Arafura Resources, two Australian miners of rare earths, both published investor presentations this March. They both state US$13 as the average price per kilo of rare earth oxides (REO).
Between them, the two companies forecast selling each year 42,000 tonnes of REO extracted from 920,000 tonnes of ore. A Lynas presentation photograph shows a stockpile of 740,000 tonnes of ore beside an open pit. Even a small Stewart Island mine will be a hard to hide eyesore, not to mention the extraction plant.
Rare earth mining is famously hard on the environment. One problem is the vast amounts of sulphuric acid used in extracting the metals and another is what to do with the ore after extraction? To quote Lynas on Chinese rare earth environmental problems : " I've seen how they're extracted and processed and it's not pretty".
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Craig, no offence and all, but: if you were an auto-commenting perl script, you couldn't be more predictable in these threads.
Mad props for the delightful use of the passive-aggressive voice there, but do you have any substantive argument with what I've actually said instead of the Kiwibog-grade "shut the fuck up, stupid troll" drive by?
But hey, if you really want to accuse anyone of outright corruption -- you know, like supporting mining because they've been promised lucrative board posts -- free speech for you. Just don't expect me to take it any more seriously than Ian Wishart on one of his "Helen Clark has sold New Zealand out to the One World Government for a corner office in Turtle Bay" rips. That's not a "moral equivalence" by the way, just calling out bat shit crazy.
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OK Craig
Let's assume the National ministers are honest and have the best interests of New Zealand as a whole as their prime motivator.
Can you please explain (showing some proof) how mining will benefit New Zealand?
The reason for asking you to do that is because thus far the numbers given by the National Party ministers appear to be wildly optimistic (wrong).
If you can't do that can you please offer an alternative explanation as to why those ministers would consider damage to our environment if, as current estimates appear to suggest, there is no tangible benefit to New Zealand.
If you can do any of the above I'll stop believing the alternative which is that the Nationnal Party ministers are NOT honest and DO NOT have the best interests of New Zealand at heart.
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ah, homeopathic remedies are wonderfully uniquely totally batshit reliable at not producing any effect (aside from the placebo) at all
My friend sent me this on How to summarise the evidence as to how Homeopathy works
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If we are going back to 1997 we must be coming up for another Hikoi of Hope, which was an amazing New Zealand-wide citizen protest mass mobilisation.
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3410,
If anyone's still wondering whether Gerry Brownlee is an honest man...
Today he [GB] said text in a Government document on the mining proposals saying the area which would be mined equated to a postcard on Eden Park was a general comparison.
He was responding to a mathematician telling TVNZ the actual figure was 121 postcards.
"I think TVNZ may have used the size of the rugby field - I said Eden Park," Mr Brownlee told Radio New Zealand.
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"I think TVNZ may have used the size of the rugby field - I said Eden Park," Mr Brownlee told Radio New Zealand.
He doesn't think well on his feet does he?
Eden Park is bigger than a rugby field (since it contains one), so the equivalent mining area will be bigger.
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