Hard News: Put on the full armour of God
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Nothing from Christ himself; of course, US 'Christians' don't have much use for that Commie faggy peacenik stuff he used to spout.
That guy was un-American.
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The way that some people use religious beliefs and religious language to justify immoral policies is just madness.
Isn't that what organised religion is for?
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the other was from from another letter by a notorious bullshitter and fast buck artiste who claimed to have seen Jesus in a vision years after he was dead.
Five different times the Jewish leaders gave me thirty-nine lashes. Three times I was beaten with rods. Once I was stoned. Three times I was shipwrecked. Once I spent a whole night and a day adrift at sea. I have traveled on many long journeys. I have faced danger from rivers and from robbers. I have faced danger from my own people, the Jews, as well as from the Gentiles. I have faced danger in the cities, in the deserts, and on the seas. And I have faced danger from men who claim to be believers but are not. I have worked hard and long, enduring many sleepless nights. I have been hungry and thirsty and have often gone without food. I have shivered in the cold, without enough clothing to keep me warm.
(NLT)
Fast buck?Nothing from Christ himself; of course, US 'Christians' don't have much use for that Commie faggy peacenik stuff he used to spout.
Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace to the earth! I came not to bring peace, but a sword.
‘I have come to set a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
Your enemies will be right in your own household!’(NLT)
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You don't want to get me started on Dora the Explorer. Or Thomas the Tank Engine. Actually, the pillow/shield is a work of art.
Thomas is a stupidly compliant sycophant, Dora a tough Hillary-like explorer. Her oversight is acceptable.
You've got a beef?
Don't touch my shit -- and if you're going to drink my milk, replace it. xxxoxxx GOD
Nice work.
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But it doesn't seem that this is going away.
Full disclosure is not on any serious agenda and anyways a commission of inquiry into a previous administration would set an unfortunate precedent circa 2017. The longer it takes for disclosure of Bush-stoopidness to precipitate the better for Obama who gets politically low cost/high benefit from little revelations like this - how Bush got cover photos and took biblical scripture with his intelligence briefings.
Obama is handing out $trillions to rich corporate types (banks, car companies), running a couple of wars, imprisoning people without charge in Bagram and will do more of the same or similar for the next 8 years. Substantive change might not occur, but the briefings will not have pretty cover pages or biblical references.
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Isn't that what organised religion is for?
Amen to that.
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Fast buck?
Or whatever that was in those days.
A comfy bed, a roof over your head, a villa by the sea. Gore V ruminated that fine male flanks were a fast buck as well, perhaps some things never change. -
@andin: Did you read the quote?
5 x 39 lashes +
3 x beaten with rods +
1 x stoned (with real stones)
doesn't sound anything like a "fast buck" to me. -
Why does god need armour? Being omnipotent you'd have thought she could just dodge?
Interesting philosphical question.
Can God, being all powerful an' that, make a bullet that will penetrate his/her own all-powerful armour?
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Does this remind anyone else of the Presidential briefings in the Simpsons movie?
"Pick a number between one and five..."
"Six"
"There is no six.""I was elected to lead, not to read"
Isn't that what organised religion is for?
Sometimes it is, other times it isn't. I know what you're getting at but statements like this are a bit blanket for my tastes.
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That would be the best costume at a Halloween Party, as long as you knew that no one there would take offence.
Probably don't make it in my size however.
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Dora a tough Hillary-like explorer. Her oversight is acceptable.
Her voice, however, could strip paint. There's the beef.
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Isn't that what organised religion is for?
When organised religion is used to target people, persecutes people, breed violence and suppresses intellectual thought I take issue.
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"Her voice, however, could strip paint. There's the beef."
Agreed. I can appreciate all things Dora apart from the extremely irritating voice they've given her. The stage show personas voice wasn't nearly as bad.
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and suppresses intellectual thought I take issue.
It's (organised religion) design is to supply answers fast. It's not a vehicle for intellectual rigour although it's possible to make a living pretending it is.
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boy oh boy. it takes but one reference to the former president & the bible, and the rampant thoughtlessness of the majority of obviously otherwise-intelligent people here comes rather fearfully to the fore... 'tis a most interesting state of affairs when, in the absence of George W, the very scripture itself now performs the crucial function of scapegoat, which it has been doing for a whole heap of time anyways...
the fantasy of so many nz'ers that religion is 'used to suppress thought' is highly amusing, to say the least!
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"Her voice, however, could strip paint. There's the beef."
Agreed. I can appreciate all things Dora apart from the extremely irritating voice they've given her. The stage show personas voice wasn't nearly as bad.
Fair enough. Dora's superior to most alternatives, however I thought the stage show surprisingly sparse - particuarly when compared with the Wiggles extravaganza!
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It's (organised religion) design is to supply answers fast. It's not a vehicle for intellectual rigour although it's possible to make a living pretending it is.
Yes and no.
All the big religions have a large body of sacred text to choose the answer from, but a lot of the text is contradictory. So yes a quick answer is available, but also any answer might theoretically be made the religiously correct answer.
The design of religion is to provide spiritual validity to the correct answer that benefits the church/temple/mosque.
This also explains Marxism.
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the fantasy of so many nz'ers that religion is 'used to suppress thought' is highly amusing, to say the least!
Welcome back, pfj. I wondered when you'd show up.
No, religion doesn't suppress all thought. The absolute unquestioning belief that a divine being rules our lives, despite the absence of any evidence to prove it, is a form of thought after all.
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The design of religion is to provide spiritual validity to the correct answer that benefits the church/temple/mosque.
i'm sorry but that's pure horsedog. You're as wrong as an owl in a treetop. the originary function of religion IS fundamental and and it is real: it is to distribute the appetitive object amongst the newly sign-bearing creatures persent around it in such a way that resentment is minimised...
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<quote>The absolute unquestioning belief that a divine being rules our lives, despite the absence of any evidence to prove it, is a form of thought after all.</qoute>
But did you make the thought up or was it placed in your head by numerous visits to vivid shocking statues of a man being tortured with nails.
One thought to rule them all.
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The absolute unquestioning belief that a divine being rules our lives, despite the absence of any evidence to prove it, is a form of thought after all.
But did you make the thought up or was it placed in your head by numerous visits to vivid shocking statues of a man being tortured with nails.
One thought to rule them all.
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hey, thanks for the welcome! BUt what would you rather have, seriously, ultimately - a lottery win OR an "absolute unquestioning belief that a divine being rules our lives" - and i DO MEAN absolute and i do mean unquestioning...
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The lottery analogy is a good one.
I may be convinced that I hold the winning ticket for this Saturday's Powerball. I may have an unquestioning belief that I will win.
Meanwhile someone who holds a different ticket holds an unquestioning belief that he/she will win.
Someone has to be wrong. Suppose it's me? Or (more likely) both of us?
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i do apologise if my sometimes compulsive capitalizations offend anybody - but i'm reading a biography right now of my fellow 'headstrong, obstinate & perverse aquarian' (gasp!) hero Don Rumsfeld and boy, is it hot! You must all remember the time DR "paid a surprise visit to his wife's vagina" in 2006
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