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  • robbery,

    And your example of Neil Finn as "Rebelling against the establishment" is laughable.

    Then brave, or stupid. Its not many people who make make potentially career altering comments on the record like that.
    He also puts his money where his mouth is in his support of local artists through use of his studio. How ever much you may dismiss his musical talent (a view not shared by many notable musicians who rate him as one of the best songwriters around) you have to give him credit for his integrity, not that I'm forcing you to.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • robbery,

    I reckon that qualifies most of us to get our 10c worth in about music and the music 'biz'.

    sure, why not. but go for 20 cents. the 2 cent rule was made when there was a unit below it, ie 1 cent. now the smallest unit is 10, so have the unit above that.

    Simply asserting greater experience in a field is not a winning debate - (at least I hope not:)

    absolutely not, debate winning is about conveying your message accurately and failing that, shouting the loudest.
    I would venture that experience and the ability to apply that knowledge intelligently should rate the highest, but debating is about talking,

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • robbery,

    I have a confession, I'm not a writer...<whispers>...I'm a poet.

    oh well, that's completely different then.

    As for my comment re: pay for it out of their own money...I rescind that, I've got no problems with an archive that I give two of each of my books to, it's been done already and they don't chase you down, heh, rampant arcivista's coming for teh artworks.

    hahaha, ok then, fair enough, turncoat :)

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • robbery,

    Let me jog your memory.
    (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci5SZx3VI_U&mode=related&search=)</quote>

    noted, but the sex pistols are really catchy tunes sung with a snarl, and a large chunk of lyrical attitude.
    Finn is not that in his current music, but at the same period in time as the sex pistols he in a band that the sex pistols though were weird freaks. that's got to count for something.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • merc,

    Hhehe, yeah but I'm a really heavy poet maan <Neil the hippy voice, not Rick the People's Poet).
    And besides, I'm totally in it for the money, meh.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report

  • robbery,

    ps, and don, thanks for that link. its easy to forget what a really good band the sex pistols were underneath all they hype of punk attitude.
    I'm enjoying watching all those clips right now. catchy as a beatles re hash?? no comment

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • robbery,

    Hhehe, yeah but I'm a really heavy poet maan <Neil the hippy voice, not Rick the People's Poet).

    That's ok then, that's almost like art or something innit?

    And besides, I'm totally in it for the money, meh.

    well it is a good career move, apparently they tell you that at school these days. (subjective, not meant to be read as actually quoting a govt statistic that they do actually tell you that at school these days)

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • merc,

    Kids, if some teacher sidles up to you and tells you to become a poet...release the evil.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report

  • robbery,

    merc, do you every get asked to 'play' one we know at 'gigs'?
    as per musicians and their hits or the work of geroge thorogood

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • Jeremy Andrew,

    "Woohooo!, Yeah, play us another! Do you know the Rime of the Ancient Mariner?"
    "No way man! do the Charge of the Light Brigade!"
    "Sod off, play something recent, how about Song of Myself?"
    "Call that recent, you old fogey, what about something local? Some Baxter or that Quordle Oodle Wardle one?"

    Hamiltron - City of the F… • Since Nov 2006 • 900 posts Report

  • merc,

    I play guitar and really bad piano, I was in a band, I don't do covers. I don't do bardic readings, I read once at a bookstore, bad things happened.
    I paint pictures too, I work a day job, I have kids and I love mowing our lawn. Also I love our garage way too much.
    I'm just an average joe, nobody who knows me would ask for a cover or a live reading (I write for the page) and anybody who doesn't know me wouldn't know I am a poet, or a guitar player, or a painter.
    They probably don't even see me at all.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report

  • InternationalObserver,

    I'm not a writer...<whispers>...I'm a poet

    try recording some of your poetry over looped beats and maybe you can be a rapper! :)

    I'm completely over this discussion

    I was completely over it about two pages back. I'm more interested in Lyndsay Lohan, which says a lot about this thread. So I'll put my money where my mouth is and STFU from here on. (and others may/may not care to do same)

    Since Jun 2007 • 909 posts Report

  • robbery,

    spinner if you're still reading this bloated thread and I sure hope you've got heavy speaker bins to lug or something instead

    if your unable to see the difference between the SATIRICAL entertainment basis of the Today show etc and the factually incorrect, outright lies, and deception of Moores "Documentaries" (as entertaining as they may seem) then you really are "the missing link....goodbye!"

    moore quite clearly states his 'documentaries' are intended to be entertainment, with a message. he represents himself on the covers of his movies as a clown,
    yes, the topics he discusses are serious but he is not painting himself as a bbc style dry doco thing, and last time I check the news of today matches and beats him on manipulation and 'creative' editing.
    The recent bbc queen doco being a perfect example that got them a mighty slap. But you're right, he sure is overweight.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • merc,

    "try recording some of your poetry over looped beats and maybe you can be a rapper! :)"
    My family would kill me first.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report

  • robbery,

    I'm completely over this discussion

    I was completely over it about two pages back.

    I was over it after my first comment but felt the need to defend myself in an ever downward spiral. hopefully another side to this black and white story came through somewhere around dark grey.

    The good news is this will be digitally archived (if russell doesn't delete it) for future generations to wonder at, oh joy.....

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • robbery,

    "try recording some of your poetry over looped beats and maybe you can be a rapper! :)"

    do it in tune and call it a song, then you can apply for,.....

    sorry, I'll get my coat...... :)

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • merc,

    Now you a funny guy...;-)

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report

  • robbery,

    jeremy,

    smirk plus 10,
    you don't do this sort of thing professionally somewhere do you?
    I'd be into reading it.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • merc,

    Sadly though, reciting your poetry can get you killed.
    Baxter was a good poet and look what we did for him.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report

  • robbery,

    Sadly though, reciting your poetry can get you killed.
    Baxter was a good poet and look what we did for him.

    gee merc, you sure no how to put a depressing mood over an otherwise "up' thread....

    sorry, already got my coat, forgot my hat......

    interesting point that Federico apparently went knowingly into a situation that was going to get him killed. as a pacifist, or coward I wish people would make their point without bloodshed, although I suppose their point is made a million times stronger in that manner.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report

  • merc,

    Suicide by poetry, eck. In NZ we have had a string of artist suicides. I comment here in part for them, it's a serious game, this creative mode of expression.
    RB is, and always has been a full-time supporter of NZ art and artists, in whatever colour, tireless. And he understands the human mind that may not be so wired as to pulse quite straight.
    Brown, present!
    It's a measure of the guy that he dealt with you so gently, that's a generous spirit in action right there, that is.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report

  • Jeremy Andrew,

    The good news is this will be digitally archived ... for future generations to wonder at

    Let me be the first to say to those future generations: Hi! Sorry about the weather, but the V6 was just too much fun to give up.

    Hamiltron - City of the F… • Since Nov 2006 • 900 posts Report

  • merc,

    V6? V8 or get out of the 'Tron...

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report

  • Jeremy Andrew,

    S'okay, I'm out in the 'burbs, not west-side :-)

    Hamiltron - City of the F… • Since Nov 2006 • 900 posts Report

  • merc,

    That's OK then but you would have a 6 cylinder 3.0 litre, not the flash Harry V6, no? (of which the Nissan Q 35 is the most beautiful).

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report

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