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If Palin had got in:
*crosses fingers on the embed*
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Again, I have to be pedantic and point out that it's about finding solace in the mysery of FRIENDS, not Limbaughs.
Are you sure about that? I've looked around a little bit and all I get is 'malicious joy'. No sign of friends in the various dictionaries and other sources I've looked at. Of course I don't read German, so I'm happy to be proved wrong.
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Anyone know what publication had the "behind the scenes on election day with the Obama's" reporters? Embedded journalism that I'd quite like to see, stage managed as it may be.
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james:
A hard left activist who seemed to only associate with the most radical and dodgy of characters
you see, he's talking, but all i can hear is "clip clop clap! who's that walking on MY bridge!"
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Are you sure about that? I've looked around a little bit and all I get is 'malicious joy'. No sign of friends in the various dictionaries and other sources I've looked at.
There's nothing like being both pedantic and wrong, innit? My apologies.
So we are lacking a word for finding solace in the misfortune of friends. Any suggestions?
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So we are lacking a word for finding solace in the misfortune of friends. Any suggestions?
It's called being a prick.
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Well Emma, point taken, but today, actually, I think perhaps it's the USA again. If any of the speeches after our election on Saturday make me feel anything like this one does, I'd agree unreservedly...
Democracy is a process, dude, not an end result.
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It's called being a prick.
Soooo.... prickness?
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quote:So we are lacking a word for finding solace in the misfortune of friends. Any suggestions?
Schadenfreudefreunde?
Schaden=injury, damage, disadvantage
freude = joy, delight
Freunde = friendsbut more punningly SchadenfreuNde might work (it might not make much sense to a german tho).
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Prickery.
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Well this didn't take long.
Asians uneasy over Obama trade stance
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=AP&date=20081105&id=9350503
I don't think Mexico or Canada were too happy about Obama's talk of unilaterally renegotiating NAFTA either.
And in our own little NuZild
Time will tell as to whether Barack Obama’s ascension to the US presidency is a blessing or a curse for NZ business.
Mr Obama made his staunch protectionist credentials a central theme of his election campaign, in stark contrast to Republican candidate John McCain, an ardent free trader.http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/nz-exporters-face-uncertainty-under-obama-37417
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I'll go to vote, on a not-work-day, and be able to just walk straight into the booth and vote. I know I'll be on the roll. The whole thing will take five minutes. And when they've got my vote, know what they'll do with it? Count it.
Yeah. And one of the great things in NZ is we're one of the few countries which doesn't let anyone campaign on election day. We say 'OK, you've said your bit, Now, STFU for 24 hours while we have our say.' I love it.
Also I like the fact the nearest polling booth to where I live is an ordinary Kiwi garage, about 30 metres away.
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I speak German and my impression is that Gio is technically correct. The more common use of Schadenfreude is not in the joy at the sorrow of enemies, it is in the secret joy that many of us feel in the sorrow of friends. But it's one of those words that has morphed in meaning, and today the foreign usages probably outnumber the originals. I don't think the Germans never used it on enemies, but the connotation that Schadenfreude is shameful suggests that it would more commonly be used the other way. Enjoying the downfall of the evil is not especially shameful.
So you can still use it that way, Gio, and feel pedantic and right. You just can't tell others off without them feeling it right back at you.
I share the hope of Rose from "Two and a half men" that Glaukenstucken might also catch on, as a word to describe "Feeling guilt about having felt Schadenfreude". I'm feeling it but I don't have a real German word, so a pseudo will do. Probably "Schadenfreudenschulde" would be more accurate.
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Probably "Schadenfreudenschulde" would be more accurate.
I have no idea about accuracy but it sure would be more awesome!
Personally I think it should be Schadenfredensnoodle but that may offend "the purists" -
Well there you go then. The United States elect an African American president, and the vagaries of the interpolation of foreign words into a language built on shameless appropriation means that we are all correct. What a day to be alive.
While we are diverted by a discussion of succinct words in foreign languages, I share 'Mamihlapinatapai' with you all, in the hope that it catches on.
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Foreign obscure word relevant to an earlier thread:
Tartle. It's Gaelic: it means 'to hesitate when meeting someone the name of whom you can't recall.'
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Che,
Whether or not you put much stock on Obama's associates and collegues, its hard to argue that there weren't more than a few shall we say "colourful" ones. Imagine if McCain had had a connection, however tenuous, with Eric Rudolf, the abortion clinic bomber. People would have gone spastic about it and quite correctly. How is Bill Ayers much different? And dispite his protestations, Obama had a significant relationship with Ayers. Ayers picked him to be the head of the Annenberg Challenge. The only reason Ayers isn't still rotting in jail is that the FBI screwed up part of its case against him. And to boot to this day Ayers is not just unapologetic, he thinks he didn't do enough. That is just not good. If it would be appalling for McCain to associate with Rudolf (however tenuous), why is it not appalling for Obama to have associated with Ayers?
Let's hope Obama does do the moderate thing. He has apparently offered Rahm Emanual his Chief of Staff job. Emmanual is a sharp operator, but a hyper partisan, arguably the most partisan Dem in the house. Doesn't seem like a sign of bi partisanship.
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'Bwwwaaaarrrr!!1!! Who are these billy goats gruff!"
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The only reason Ayers isn't still rotting in jail is that the FBI screwed up part of its case against him.
One of several reasons that Ayers isn't still rotting in jail is that he never killed or injured anyone as part of the Weather Underground. The worst action he could have been convicted of was blowing up buildings, which wouldn't carry at 30 year prison sentence.
Eric Rudolf on the other hand, killed a couple of people, and injured many others.
But keep on making things up. I think Che is entertained.
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kyle, i heard troll-food is on sale at mitre-10 mega. assuming you run out.
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My pick for the kids puppy is a pit-bull with lipstick!
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So, fivethirtyeight tells us that turnout wasn't that much higher. I wonder if there was a tradeoff between new people voting for Obama and Republicans staying at home, or if the much touted increase in registration turned to nought.
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i do feel concern that there seems to be more celebration in NZ over the US voting in a black president than there ever was in NZ electing a female prime minister.
not forgetting that for days there has been an ad to the right of these boards reminding us that all politicians are liars
furthermore considering the closest 'darky' to reaching the top position in NZ has just been more or less politically castrated for doing little more than accept donations
in light of the fact that obama's victory was inextricably inked by a victory of donations and capital raised.
knowing full well that when a maori finally attains the coveted NZ captaincy there won't be half the hyperbole. (which does highlight something positive about our nature)
and no disrespect to to Obama; he has great teeth and and has said the right words. I'm just left with kind of in awe of how successful the wires and wirelesses have been in turning the droves into US drones.like a giant Truman show.
just days out from a NZ election where neither of the major parties has suggested anything more than fresh ways to tread water.
congratulations to the Obama campaign,
4 more years of totalitarianism there
and NZ is about to start its next 3 year tour of duty
with scant choice between two 20th century monoliths
most distinguished by the frequency of the light bouncing off the representatives respective neckties and flare;made all the more worrying by R.B's lack of a post today just hours out, to remind us that yes, yesterday was history but Saturday could also be, albeit not on the grand scale of the greatest sporting extravaganza on earth, just witnessed. but
most relevant.
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than there ever was in NZ electing a female prime minister.
Might I suggest that the gloss was taken off that somewhat because we had a female prime minister who preceded her, but who wasn't elected as such, you see.
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One of several reasons that Ayers isn't still rotting in jail is that he never killed or injured anyone as part of the Weather Underground.
The nail bomb his girlfriend prematurely detonated on was intended for the killing of some dancing officers and WAGs.
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