Hard News: Food and drink
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Kong,
@Giovanni. I never said I didn't like the "Pizza de Rosso" or whatever the name was (it's been over 15 years), it was a nice little snack and reasonably priced, a refreshing change for something purchased in Eurip. I just felt that the grandiose title of Pizza deserved something with a little bit more effort involved, but given that Italians have the best claim to owning the recipe, I had to just eat it. Much like a McDonalds Hamburger, it was the barest minimum that you could put into something and still call it that.
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I just felt that the grandiose title of Pizza deserved something with a little bit more effort involved
There is nothing whatsoever that is grandiose about pizza.
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Kong,
It's more grandiose than toast. I can make toast. Tomato sauce on it was OK, but if they served Vegemite I'd have been just as happy.
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I'm not sure how "affectedly grand or important; pompous." would apply to pizza.
I suppose, in a pinch, if we had to choose, we might perceive hotdogs as being slightly more grandiose than toast, too, but I'd hardly describe them as a grandiose type of food.
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Have you ever read The Road To Wigan Pier? You really really should, esp. the bits about the price of food.
No, it's one of the few of his I haven't read but now will. Thanks.
But it is purportedly quite tricky according to many, which is what he said. It was a good example and great satire.
Yes, but they're wrong. Two and a Half Men is purportedly funny except in reality it isn't. I didn't say the satire wasn't funny. It was. It was just a poor example to choose for the satire because shushi is actually not difficult to make.
You do seem a little “born again” about the whole thing.
At the moment I find his arguments highly convincing.
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Pizza is pretty much like a cheap tart these days, it is whatever you want it to be.
But you may need to shell out more for a convincing experience?
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But you may need to shell out more for a convincing experience?
I don't know. I always rate the enthusiastic cheap and cheerfuls.
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I'm not sure I know enough to stretch that metaphor any further..
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That Piece of Pisa in the Piazza dei Miracoli...
If you tend towards the affectedly grand, now that's grandiose... (the carillion-on-a-lean)
...but does that leave the Food Pantheon door open for a late starter - pompous couscous?
... just 'cos...yrs
Mo Zzarella
Giovanni Pisano fan club -
It was just a poor example to choose for the satire because shushi is actually not difficult to make.
I'm going to assume that you're being deliberately obtuse here, because I thought I was ladling it on with a trowel. The actual foodstuff picked for the parody made no nevermind; I could have used cheese on toast, a jam sandwich, or pate de fois gras. I note that you ignored the chess part of the parody, presumably because it's easier to focus on an irrelevent detail rather than engage with the actual argument.
ObFood: happily, New World in Miramar have now redesignated their Cornish Pasties. Previously they were labelled "Meat Samosa". A case of mistaken fusion cuisine-spotting....
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Two and a Half Men is purportedly funny except in reality it isn't.
On that, we agree.
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Kong,
I'm not sure how "affectedly grand or important; pompous." would apply to pizza.
It applies to the pizza that demands no others share its name. The kind of pizza that you tidy up the house for when you order it.
I don't know. I always rate the enthusiastic cheap and cheerfuls.
Can't fault the price. The taste though?
I think this metaphor falls down, in that you should never, under any circumstances, order a cheap tart delivered to your house. Also, you really don't want a pizza that's been eaten by 5,000 other guys beforehand.
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I think this metaphor falls down, in that you should never, under any circumstances, order a cheap tart delivered to your house. Also, you really don't want a pizza that's been eaten by 5,000 other guys beforehand.
I'm going to put this in the Two and a Half Men category. It's clearly meant to be funny, but I can't bring myself to laugh. The slut-shamy just makes me feel uncomfortable and sad.
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3410,
Another PAS Google first. Well done, Hillary.
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Two and a half men has its moments - providing you only expect one facial expression per actor (except devious Naki chick Melanie Lynskey of course). This does not mean I'm defending any food delivery metaphors.
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It applies to the pizza that demands no others share its name. The kind of pizza that you tidy up the house for when you order it.
That kind of pizza is likely to elicit laughter in Italy. Perhaps you can find it in New Zealand, in one of those places where they sell "gourmet pizza". (Which, just by looking at it, sucks.)
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Giovanni, are you seriously saying you haven't delved into the world o gourmet pizza?
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I saw some slices at the Victoria staff club no longer than one hour ago. It looked like last week's Hell Pizza.
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I've eaten some interesting combinations of meats and vegetables baked on a round flat bread-base in a pizza oven.
They were all (well, ok, mostly) delicious, but many of them did not really meet my definition of "pizza".
avocado and teriyaki chicken? pumpkin and sesame seed?
others I forget.... yummy, pizza shaped.
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Continuing the food innovation theme. Two of my son's inventions: scones (not muffins) made with lime flavoured milk and Mars bars, and toasted sandwiches with pavlova filling.
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O goodness Hilary, what can I say? (Wrings eyes out so information doesnt stay.)
But all *five* of subadolescant family who responded (I did check 9 - with categories -perhaps?like? really would enjoy? yuk? Edible?
Hate?) because I really didnt believe anyone would eat such combinations)
said
variants of
sounds OK
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Just don't let them near a deep-fryer with those mars bars. :)
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Look what it's done to Glaswegians-
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It's just interesting what he comes up with without any 'rules' of what should go with what (and he is on the autistic spectrum and so quite often original in his approach to the world). He does quite a lot of experimenting with the toasted sandwich maker (and fillings) because he feels comfortable with it.
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O, this is not a comment on Aspergerly creativity - it was just testing the water with my sub-ad/adolescent base (who will/do eat almost any combination of sweet/fat/fried.)
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