Hard News: Finally, the Teapot Tape?
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merc,
My early in word, expression for the year must be,
Hey that's a recording device!
I've started to notice where this can be usefully applied to my life,
Hey that's a coffee constructing device!
Hey that's a food eating device!
Hey that a vehicular transporting device!
Hey that's a democracy making device! -
3410,
"... because it's still an illegal recording". - Jim Mora, today.
Is there any topic about which that guy is not completely clueless?
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nzlemming, in reply to
Is there any topic about which that guy is not completely clueless?
No. Really, really no.
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Having listened the recording the most damning part is, in my opinion, the part @07.23 where Key says "is that yours" three times in quick succession, ie. faster than any normal human could respond, even if you include John Banks in that description. Then, without time to check he says "That's a recording device".
When we first saw pictures the "device" was in a black bag on the table. When you grab a bag containing a recording device it can be clearly heard on the recording, not so in this case. This means JK knew there was a recording device in the bag before he even touched it but he had already disowned the bag by asking JB if it was his, three times.
This can only mean one thing as far as I can see. Key knew of the device before it was discovered and that points to collusion between Key's team and the journalist.
Why? well it sure took the media's attention off anything Labour had to say in the last week leading up to the election and that, I think, was the whole point.
One interesting bit is that even though he knew it was there he still made a gaffe that played straight into Winston's hands'.
What is on the tape was never the game changer, the tape was. -
Hi guys. I’m back in the house and I’ve restored the link to the original post. I hadn’t had time to take advice and Ijust didn’t want to be fretting about it while I was out doing stuff and away from the computer.
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Danielle, in reply to
He knows a lot about dog agility courses.
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There’s only one thing left now for those who still think the tapes are illegal, and that’s Mubaraking the Internet. Go ahead, make our day.
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BenWilson, in reply to
Hey, that's a d-vice device.
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Islander, in reply to
When we first saw pictures the “device” was in a black bag on the table. When you grab a bag containing a recording device it can be clearly heard on the recording, not so in this case. This means JK knew there was a recording device in the bag before he even touched it but he had already disowned the bag by asking JB if it was his, three times.
This can only mean one thing as far as I can see. Key knew of the device before it was discovered and that points to collusion between Key’s team and the journalist.
WhyGot it in one Steve B- it raised my suspicions that Key, at least, was well aware of a 'recording device' when I saw the photo of where the black bag was-
the whole thing was a game play that - fortunately - didnt work out at all well for the National spin machine.
"Wasting police time" anyone? -
alobar, in reply to
I don't want to credit Key with being that fast on his feet , but whether or not he had noticed the device before the end of the conversation he still wasted police time
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Sacha, in reply to
Hey that's a democracy making device!
a hammer :)
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I'm looking forward to someone with more time and wherewithal than I to re-sync the recording to the footage in light of what someone was saying about non-verbal communication upthread...
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Russell Brown, in reply to
I’m looking forward to someone with more time and wherewithal than I to re-sync the recording to the footage in light of what someone was saying about non-verbal communication upthread…
I'm told just such a derivative work exists -- subtitles and all -- but has never been broadcast.
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Jarno van der Linden, in reply to
When we first saw pictures the "device" was in a black bag on the table. When you grab a bag containing a recording device it can be clearly heard on the recording, not so in this case.
At about 7:50 it sounds like the recorder is being put in a bug. Possibly the pictures were from after that time?
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Truly a storm in a teapot.
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Jos,
It's all this lot are capable of.
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This can only mean one thing as far as I can see. Key knew of the device before it was discovered and that points to collusion between Key’s team and the journalist.
Why? well it sure took the media’s attention off anything Labour had to say in the last week leading up to the election and that, I think, was the whole point.Right. So ‘the plan’ and their arrangement with Ambrose would go something like:
We’d like you to secretly record our conversation, in which we make several mildly embarrassing statements. Then take it to the media outlets you work for, but arrange it so they just report on the tape but don’t release it.
Then we’ll attack you and conduct a campaign of character assassination against you, accusing you of gutter journalism to make it all look believable. Then we’ll lay a complaint with the police -and rely on your discretion not to reveal this arrangement - and in response you file proceedings against us in the High Court. Then we’ll seek $14,000 court costs against you, again, just to make it all look really realistic. Deal?
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Deal?
I wouldn't have gone for it myself.
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Islander, in reply to
Depends on what else (if anything, and I'm not suggesting there *was* a what else)
they were prepared to offer - or, and I'm not suggesting there was, just putting out hypothetical scenarios- they had something on him... -
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar..
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Islander, in reply to
Or not.
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There’s a cigar burned every minute.
Or to put it another way: in this case, cock-up seems far more likely than conspiracy theory. -
Russell Brown, in reply to
Or to put it another way: in this case, cock-up seems far more likely than conspiracy theory.
I wholeheartedly concur.
Apart from anything else, the major beneficiary of the whole affair is Winston Peters, whose vote doubled in its wake.
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Islander, in reply to
Which leads us to
*cockup by whom?* -
Islander, in reply to
Yes. Which tends to suggest that spin-meister Joyce had another scenario planned altogether...
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