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Hard News: A few (more) words on The Hobbit

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  • Peter Cox,

    And if you are working, what are you all doing on here eh? Eh?

    I'm currently attempting to delude myself into thinking this is work, sadly enough. It's not going very well.

    PS Simon, sorry! I shouldn't have spoken for you, least of all to call you a producer, with the accompanying rotten tomatoes likely to be thrown in your direction and all that...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 312 posts Report

  • Heather W.,

    And off-topic, apparently we have been too mean about our MPs so we are not allowed to know specific details about their travel perks anymore.

    North Shore • Since Nov 2008 • 189 posts Report

  • andrea quin,

    @Bart Janssen

    The EU is changing the post-doc setup so that anyone who has been in the same place 5 years becomes an employee not a contractor. This is to counter the increasing casualisation of academic work.

    And who says this kind of contrscting doesn't exist in NZ employment law at the moment? There are loads of post-docs happily (or unhappily, as the case may be) working around the country.

    Auckland • Since Dec 2009 • 44 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    Oh, looks like the press release is out:

    This year’s SPADA conference kicks off with a hiss and a roar with the key plenary session on The Hobbit – What Really Happened. Chaired by Russell Brown, the panel will include Philippa Boyens (co-writer The Hobbit), SPADA’s CEO Penelope Borland and Executive Member Richard Fletcher.

    I hope there's someone a but more "other side" added to the panel, or I might have to go rogue on them ;-)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • Peter Cox,

    I'm preparing for my future career as an independent screenwriter.

    Here's where you join ;) We give you a genuine 'I'm a real writer' card. The ladies love it. Gentlemen too, depending on your preferences.

    http://www.nzwg.org.nz/

    ...and we do other stuff too, of course, such as running a Writer's Awards! http://www.nzwg.org.nz/news/a-celebration-swanz-tickets-on-sale-now/

    Oscar Kightley MCing Jubilee Hall, Parnell, 10 November. Woo-hoo!

    EDIT: Oh s**t I spammed publicaddress. Am I in trouble, Russell?

    EDIT: ...and yeah... we're in the process of redeveloping the website before anyone says...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 312 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    Warner Brothers- "What the fuck are we going to do when we run out of hobbit books."

    Thanks to The Silmarillion that won't happen for about 200 years.

    And New Zealand/Wingnut will have Avatar 2 and Tintin to be getting with.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • BenWilson,

    LOL Peter, I can add it to my other business cards with fictitious titles.

    And New Zealand/Wingnut will have Avatar 2 and Tintin to be getting with.

    Yes, it's not like Tintin doesn't have long legs if the first one is a hit.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report

  • Idiot Savant,

    And off-topic, apparently we have been too mean about our MPs so we are not allowed to know specific details about their travel perks anymore.

    Just remember this next time an MP complains about how we regard them as corrupt, self-serving arseholes. They really have no-one to blame but themselves.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report

  • Islander,

    I have the complete Tintin - including the Africa volume. There are rather a lot of books...and I trust they dont do them in order (if they're going to them 'according to the book.') "Tintin in Tibet' is my favourite-

    "Dambusters' is no longer scheduled?

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report

  • Andre Alessi,

    And off-topic, apparently we have been too mean about our MPs so we are not allowed to know specific details about their travel perks anymore.

    But it's OK because a National government would never abuse their powers like Auntie Helen did! Or something.

    Anyone know when we're due for our next "Taking Back Democracy" march? Because runaway power grabs, excessive secrecy, PC gone mad, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria, etc etc

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report

  • Jeremy Eade,

    Warner Brothers- "What the fuck are we going to do when we run out of hobbit books."

    Thanks to The Silmarillion that won't happen for about 200 years.

    That's a hard book to read. It's as boring as the bible.No hobbit either, at least in the first ten pages.

    I hope I'm wrong and these industries go incredibly well and i would support any legislation that would concentrate on New Zealand getting our art on.

    I'm always like, "what would Warren Buffett do with his film shares?".
    But more money to artistic pursuits, i'm all for.

    and Tin Tin books are movies already, I'm not feeling the same love as i did for Bilbo, unimagined on screen until P.J

    auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 1112 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    Also, hopelessly off-topic, but does anyone know if Simon Grigg is ok? I know he's in Indonesia, and he hasn't posted anything to his blog since Tuesday (and I don't know whether that's a NZ time stamp or an Indonesian one).

    Thanks Petra. Yep, I'm fine. I'm in Bangkok these days but I put my wife on a plane to Indonesia this morning for work. She will be in Jogja (Yogyakarta - where Gunung Merapi is) on Monday which she's nervous as hell about, as I am. We're going to take it on a let's see basis.

    I was on the side of that volcano last year and walked up the lava flow. It's rather humbling walking amongst the demolished villages on the slopes, with houses and shops which we were told still held bodies from the 2006 eruption.

    Those same buildings, looking at the images these last few days, have been hit again.

    Wonderful Jogja, which is the intellectual and artistic centre of Java, and the ancient Mataram capital, seems to be struck over and over again. So sad.

    I'm also hoping the incredible royal museum, Ullen Sentalu, cut into rocks on the side of the mountain and filed with centuries of royal relics, has survived.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Islander,

    Jeremy Eade "Tintin books are movies already"-
    I wholeheartedly agree.
    OK, some comics translate to screen (outside-head instead of inside head -where IMHO, they work best) but I'm buggered as to how Tintin could work with live actors...

    LOTR to this reader certainly didnt - and it is not a comic trilogy.

    Mourning: I've never seen *my* perfect Tarzan movie either...and I've seen them all.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report

  • Jeremy Eade,

    Of course i'm pretending that cartoon LOTR version was never made, man i watched that as a kid, the colour goes half way through because they ran out of budget and Hobbiton looks like Hell.

    auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 1112 posts Report

  • BenWilson,

    That's a hard book to read. It's as boring as the bible.No hobbit either, at least in the first ten pages.

    Yes, in itself it's not a bestseller. But consider the number of biblical stories which have become movies...

    and Tin Tin books are movies already, I'm not feeling the same love as i did for Bilbo, unimagined on screen until P.J

    Fairly sure there's been a Hobbit cartoon.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report

  • Joe Wylie,

    . . . Bilbo, unimagined on screen until P.J

    Bilbo Baggins has featured in both The Hobbit (1977) and Lord of the Rings (1978), long before PJ created the known universe.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report

  • Jeremy Eade,

    yes,the cartoon one.Thank God for P.J

    auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 1112 posts Report

  • BenWilson,

    Of course i'm pretending that cartoon LOTR version was never made, man i watched that as a kid, the colour goes half way through because they ran out of budget and Hobbiton looks like Hell.

    Apart from the hobbits themselves, I thought that wasn't a half bad movie for its day, pity they couldn't finish. Jackson drew on it heavily for his imagining, a great many compositions are lifted from it. The first scene with the Nazgul, Gollum's appearance and manner, the fact that the second movie ends at exactly the same point, the prologue with voice over. I still think the scene where the Nazgul pursue Frodo is much creepier than what Jackson managed, although to be fair, cartoon does lend itself to freakouts.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report

  • Jeremy Eade,

    But consider the number of biblical stories which have become movies...

    actually the bible really gets going in some places, very action packed,but poor dialogue.

    The cartoon was ambitious, but it sucked if you were totally enchanted by the books.

    I loved those LOTR movies, they made folks so happy.

    auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 1112 posts Report

  • Joe Wylie,

    I'm buggered as to how Tintin could work with live actors...

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report

  • Joe Wylie,

    Apart from the hobbits themselves, I thought that wasn't a half bad movie for its day, pity they couldn't finish. Jackson drew on it heavily for his imagining, a great many compositions are lifted from it.

    Good on you for pointing that out, Ben. While I have very mixed feelings about Ralph Bakshi's largely well-meaning but often heavy-handed output, I was surprised by the number of set-ups that Jackson obviously lifted from his LOTR.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report

  • Islander,

    Heh! Not bad Joe -but Snowy doesnt quite look like Snowy and Tintin's quiff is waaay too blond. Capitan Halibut, on the other hand-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report

  • Islander,

    I saw Bakshi's work in January, 1978, in my first trip evah out of ANZ.
    In Hawai'i.
    I've got a copy.
    I havent watched it since 2005.
    Dont think I will again (but there were good bits...just, not many of them, and the thing obviously suffered from from financial anaemia.)

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report

  • Jeremy Eade,

    The thing about Tolkien is he loves rambling on about the details of the surroundings. He spends pages sometimes describing hills.

    auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 1112 posts Report

  • Jacqui Dunn,

    Love that Tintin.

    Deepest, darkest Avondale… • Since Jul 2010 • 585 posts Report

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