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Nice to have you and Mr E on the show, Michele
absolutely.
and you too brendhan.
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No malice in my comment Michelle! It was just my immediate response (the line about if I wanted to get laid I'd have joined a band) to your comment, and from that sprung that old cliche attractive women use to explain why they marry someone ugly 'he makes me laugh'. But Jeremy is quite attractive really so I guess that was a bit obtuse. And then I thought I better finish off with a zinger, hence the joke in the bar, which in itself is a standard/cliche for comedians.
But has been noted earlier, if you have to explain the jokes then maybe you're not a comedian.
PS - Brendan; you're a nice guy. Well, I only met you once, but you were nice.
PPS - Re the Rove appearance. How many Aussies had seen that bit before? It is an Aussie show ...
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how do u get previous coments to show up.i was trying to send amessage to robyn gallagher but it looks like i sent it to dom christie.its freaking me out.
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umm, you might need to explain that a bit better brendhan, what do you mean?
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click on the grey envelope icon under Robyn's name at the top of the page if you want to write to her privately. generally better to say it via PA though i'd have thought.
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hmm, i've never thought to hit the Reply button
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umm RB, what is the Reply button meant to do?
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Oh, I see. Brendhan, comments just follow based on the time they were posted, no matter where you hit the "Reply" button. Hence the over use of quotes to show who we are responding to.
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so Don, isn't the reply button a bit redundant?
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It seems that way. best to ask Cactus and Russell.
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Sue,
B hit the little envelope below a users icon if you want to contact someone direct.
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might be an artifact of the old pre-PA|sys code?
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"Isn't it a bit like magic? You like the fact that they pulled off the illusion, but you don't want to look too close. Knowing how they got the rabbit in there might take the surprise and therefore the fun out of it. Unless, of course, you're getting up next to pull out a hare."
Hey Mr Slack! Nice to be here. Good to have a discussion about comedy that goes deeper than, "Here's one you can use..."
Rabbit out of a hat might be a good analogy. Not that you want to know HOW the magician got it out of the hat; but that you'd be happy to see the trick again - if it was a really spectacular rabbit and a really magnificent hat.
The point I'm trying to make is that repetition is vital to comics. A bit of comedy isn't finished the first time you do it; it has just STARTED. It needs to be played over and over in front of real people to hone it, tweak it, add to it, polish it till it shines.
I was hoping that, if you're hearing a good gag for a second or third time, you might admire its craft...? Or be amused by the amusement of the new people around you...?
And it can't be ALL about the element of surprise - or why would people buy comedy CDs and DVDs?
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Plus, I don't know how you do the cute thing where you quote someone else's post in pale grey...?
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Plus, I don't know how you do the cute thing where you quote someone else's post in pale grey...?
The instructions are to the left of the posting box - see "quote".
I like hearing the same routine twice, and I do admire the art. Maybe it's because I'm a musician and I'm into thinking about performance. And I do laugh with everyone else, even though I know it's coming - in fact if you do it right, the anticipation can be good.
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Plus, I don't know how you do the cute thing where you quote someone else's post in pale grey...?
Ah now Michele. We could tell you but then where would the magic be?
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Doh, Judd.
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PS: I'm not being difficult, I can't figure out how to do the quote markup so that you can see it,
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It's interesting reading ideas of comedy as a craft process. It kind of reminds me of the capping show. I went to opening night this year, which is in part interesting because of the stuff they cull afterwards because it doesn't work. There's something of a group humour mentality in the cast, and stuff that seems uproariously funny to the cast goes down like a bucket of cold sick with the public. I always get a little kick when I see some of my old cast-mates on the box as well.
And big ups to Jeremy if he's still around!! Long ago memories of comedy out the back of Ruby in the Dust, and the efforts he and others must have gone to to keep it fresh. Mint.
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< quote > Like this </ quote >
but without the spaces between the pointy brackets
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The instructions are to the left of the posting box - see "quote".
Got it. Cheers. For that and the other bit.
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Look to the left of the box where you type your response - it gives instruction on how to quote and the like.
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What an interesting discussion (comedy as a craft, not the how do I get to quote people, bit), I had never thought of comedy like that. Thanks, Michele. You learn something new every day. I suppose that most comedians don't do freestyle stuff alot of the time - after all, it's difficult to make people laugh at the best of times, and I guess the people who do it best are those that have most practise at it. I agree with David. It might be well rehearsed, but as an audience, you don't want to see that bit of it. It's the magic of hearing something said that you hadn't heard said, or thought of, in that way before. And that's why I will continue to go to see comedy shows. Because I'm not so much into the craft. Like looking at a good painting or hearing a great piece of music, I don't need to know how or why it works, I just know that it does, for me. And that people who can make it work, not just for me, but for hundreds of others, are very clever. I like clever people. They make the world interesting.
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Sue,
and it's lovely to hear the perspective of someone who truly helped take stand up to the next level here in NZ.
one of my all time favorite shows was a double bill Michele shared with mike king at downstage back in the early years of the comedy festival.
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I agree with David. It might be well rehearsed, but as an audience, you don't want to see that bit of it. It's the magic of hearing something said that you hadn't heard said, or thought of, in that way before.
That's kinda what I meant a wee while back when I talked about audiences finding a way to appreciate a gag a second time around, but I'm having trouble expressing this! It's not about explaining a joke (lord no!) (I clearly can't explain anything!) or understanding its construction, or the "why" of the funny bit. It's about a comedian making a well-crafted, often-performed bit (because that's generally what it will be if it's good) sound fresh and true, unrehearsed, spontaneous and improvised, as though they had just stumbled upon it. You're not supposed to see how they do it, just that it is done. That's the craft of comedy - making it look like it's not crafted.
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