Hey Mr Ramone..........4696 as off the time of this post!

Lee is toast, we've all played a part in this with actions and words. Good on you for your efforts as well as Byron who has obviously been the driving force and pivot point

Carl.......you are slime and ooze disingenuousness. Your own obsession for 'meeting' is this......you think having a chit chat that you end with 'well we agree to disagree' and 'my beliefs are different' makes your beliefs ok...........that's your goal, to excuse your ugly views, your damaging views and your attempts to influence others with your ugly views.
No one needs to meet, the internet is the perfect platform for discussion. Sadly from meeting people like Lee in person and having a different view to him makes him angry and aggressive.........and the old...'let's meet' routine has undertones of just that..........it's well known.

Lee's commenters call for Lee to be violent, Lee commonly makes vague 'tough guy comments' that have a violent theme.

You nor Lee control anybody, so a refusal to meet someone who you know to be unreachable and aggressive is pointless and your own attempts at drawing a 'manliness' issue around it is truly pathetic as if 'manliness' has anything to do with the conversation.

It would seem you and Lee are more concerned about your own perceived 'manliness' than anything here.
Byron is showing real signs of manliness by not being baited into your 'controlled conversation' and not being intimidated by two dirtbags that don't have the INTEGRITY to state their real gut ideologies and hide them behind a weak cover of PATRIOTISM.

NO ONE IS FOOLED BY YOU TWO, JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T SAY WHAT YOU WANT OPENLY DOESN'T MEAN YOUR MESSAGE ISN'T BEING SPOKEN.