Posts by dubmugga
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hah...you're just the kind of person hone wouldn't give a shit on what your opinion was or accept that he is answerable to you in any way
he is answerable first and foremost to his electorate and if they accept him as mediocre then sweet by me
besides, i'd be setting myself up for disappointment if i demand excellence from the current bunch of clowns we got running parliament
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oh please... its not like any of us have never pulled a sickie and skived off work for the day. just cos he's a public servant now doesnt mean we should expect more from him, if anything we should expect less.
i mean, he prolly would have done it no matter what his job was or who was paying him, at least he's consistent unlike rodders.
scream blue murder all you like but it's more of a media beat up and a distraction from how piss poor the nats are really doing in both running the country and their coalition.
and as for the colourful e-mail, despite the language it's still the truth so it was a bit rich seeing that pompous hairdo and well known good for nothing peter dunne on telly saying whites had 'allegedly' ripped of maori.
i'd much rather see the arse end of that leech on the taxpayer than hone.
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you agree to marry a certain personage because your father or brother/s will thereby live?
yeah what was practised among the captured bluebloods was not quite enslavement but in those instances not something you'd neccessarily want the rellies to know or get recorded in the annals of history either unless you wanted savage retribution exacted for generations.
but nah sweet as, i'll take your word for it as you take the word of your ancetors for it cos its not like they had any reason to lie:)
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haha...fair enough add another 3 hundred years and you win the chocolate ika, might want to share it with your east coast ancestors :P
on a serious note though, do the whakapapa lines say why or how the marriages came to be ?
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big deal islander, when you say, way before, what are you talking about, 100 years or so, maybe six generations at most? hardly prehistory is it ?
funnily enough i can whakapapa back to my paternal great grandfather who was irish and arrived in NZ maybe about four generations after ngai tahu but not long enough that they still were'nt going about consolidating their claims by conquest. it doesnt sound as mystical or indigenously fantastic as your ancestry. however on my mothers maternal side i could go way back to probably the original settlers of NZ.
and i would think there was way more killing and eating than there was intermarriage, with the intermarriage you speak of probably having been forced from enslaved high born females to form alliances and assimliate land titles.
and to be honest you and athol know as little about what went on during waitaha times and what the original settlers painted on rocks as brailsford does or me for that matter. its not that i prefer fantasy it's just that there is way more in my philosophy that can be dreamt of by your ancestry.
simple fact is the green stone trails were not blazed by ngai tahu.
BTW this is a good read ;)
http://www.archive.org/stream/talesofbankspeni00jacoiala/talesofbankspeni00jacoiala_djvu.txt
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it still doesnt take away from the fact that ngai tahu were little more than a bunch of marauding cannibals from the east coast of the nth island who barely beat the pakeha to the sth island and the people brailsford talked to had more waitaha blood 'native' to the sth island than any 'pure' ngai tahu you could ever hope to meet and were probably the only ones capable of retelling the histories and tradtions of waitaha because by that time both ngati mamoe and ngai tahu had virtually exterminated any trace of them.
...maybe he should have written his book that way?
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i want to play cowbell in hone's band cos we could always do with more cowbell eh ?
You could lobby the council to introduce a bylaw banning vehicles from the beach.
Or you could try and persuade central government to generally ban cars from beaches, as is the law in most other countries.
i'm gonna get all up in nick smiths face i think. him being a nelson mp, environment minister, having local knowledge and history with the parties involved here.
so if they do repeal the foreshore and seabed thing and its not like the govt has anything better to replace the current legislation with or probably is ever likely to have, then this particular piece of real estate would automatically revert back to ngati tama ownership as has been proven in courts of law and they can rightfully blockade the estuary again...yeah ?
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madchester baby...oh yeah!!! -
you're talking tame as in not wild not tame as in iti...eh :)
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and exactly what of whiteys rules did he break...the biggest one??? getting caught lying ???
...the understanding is, it's ok to lie ,it's actually expected of you as a politician just dont get caught and thats where brownies fail cos we're just not good at it, just ask taito
i'm all for playing the game by your own rules and like hone, fuck what whitey thinks. sometimes you gotta bite the hand that feeds ya especially if they arent feeding you enough or often enough or just feeding you the wrong food.