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Comment on Pam Corkery's article in today's NZ Herald "Dunne connection demands grilling" by one jerome buckleigh at 12.55PM Wednesday 23 Apr 2014
"I was at a party in Titirangi two years ago and met Matt Bowden who informed me that Dunne's son was writing legislation for legal highs and that Bowden had input."
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Well you don't know because there's no consistent analysis of product content!
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Hard News: Sorting out our thinking on drugs, in reply to Russell Brown,
Moral panic spreads to the hospitals! Let's get back to evidence based medicine. I opine that "new" untested drug variants are coming into New Zealand - with unknown physiological effect.
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So sorry. I am not a lawyer and I took my opinion not from the other thread it seems but probably from "Father & son: Dunne deals?" in The Standard (thestandard.org.nz/father-son-dunne-deals/) and obviously have conflicted thinking on the subject and have made a faulty inference re some connection between father and son. I have a printed file on the subject of Legal Highs since this is a professional interest wrt drug choices, and referred to the wrong page. How silly is that! My apologies to all I have offended.
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@Chris Waugh
I take my opinion from the other thread. This is a serious medical issue as I see it, and if the aim really is "sorting out our thinking on drugs" we need to be mindful of the evidence. The most useful contribution here is Shulgin who challenges the business to reveal the actual content of product and the risks involved. -
Hard News: Sorting out our thinking on drugs, in reply to Russell Brown,
Supply and demand. So long as there is a market the synthetic lab drugs will keep coming and they are very profitable. They will come through the internet sources anyway and the black market is already established. Adopt the Canberra system with modest fines, allowance for a couple of domestic plants and decriminalisation.
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@Shulgin
Excellent post. Kids will die the way things are going and who will prove negligent for this appalling state of affairs. Health and Safety nowhere to be seen. ACC silent. Hospitals complaining. Minister complacent and complicit with son and importing business. Parents frantic. Local Government stymied. NZ Poisons Centre apparently without sufficient test facilities. MoH sitting on sidelines unable to act as they should. ESR a provider or "expert advice" along with the Ministry's National Drug Policy Team. Preliminary assessments (eg Kronic) done by EACD (Expert-Advisory Committee on Drugs "which involved substance identification, current classification, prevalence, and international classification"). Huge financial and social costs ongoing, while the failure plays out .... -
Hard News: Sorting out our thinking on drugs, in reply to BenWilson,
USA law changes are right, as are those laws in the more enlightened states in Australia.
This witless and unworkable NZ law will fail because there is an endless supply of variants (ie "research drugs") and as one is withdrawn another slightly altered version will surface. They will reappear faster than they can be "tested" by the EACD ..which Committee apparently evaluated Kronic and found JWH-018 which was not on the label. The term "Synthetic Cannabinomimetics" is on the MoH page which advises on the coding of these psychotropic drugs.
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Hard News: Sorting out our thinking on drugs, in reply to Rich of Observationz,
I will have a copy somewhere or it will be on the Guardian site. I have been waiting for someone to infer trolling!
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Story in UK press a while back of burglars cleaning out bathroom cabinets of drugs and scoffing the lot ..no discrimination. No idea what they were taking ..all just "drugs" .. like "legal high" consumers. Scoffers survived but imagine some common cardiac drugs etc could have buzzy effects...