Posts by Pete George
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Hard News: The silence of the public square, in reply to ,
If they want to be taken seriously, yes.
That could be applied to Dotcom and the Internet party, probably more appropriately.
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@ChrisHipkins:
Finally had a chance to see the Dotcom video everyone's talking about. It's alarming. No place for that kind of thuggery in NZ politics
Getting a bunch of people drunk and getting them to chant abuse isn't political leadership. It's thuggery and megalomania intertwined.
I want more young NZers to vote to be heard, not because they're being wound up & manipulated by the worst kind of cynicism and thuggery.
I think that will reflect a much more common view than Dotcom and Harre are trying to portray.
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Hard News: The silence of the public square, in reply to Stephen Judd,
I wasn't insisting on anything like that then Stephen. Ironically you are the one who seems insistent I "don't get to".
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Laila Harre:
“When you get a room of a thousand young people together and you give them a political message, then they will respond that young people respond to politics.
“The response that those young people is typical of youth expression, and we’re not about censoring youth expression.”
Pissed people chanting at the end of a gig is likely to have little to do with politics, except for those trying to demonstrate popular support for a political party.
But regardless of what thoughts were in the minds of the chanting crowd they have a right to chant what they like.
But apparently anyone who perceived Nazi connotations in Dotcom's performance (and many apparently did) should shut the fuck up about it.
Russell Brown @publicaddress
More dimwitted Nazi analogies from a “political marketing specialist” even more deluded than Claire Robinson:@PeteDGeorge @ManaParty @nzlabour Your “Nazi connotations” are pop-cultural ignorance + lazy ethnic bigotry.
Godwin ist verboten, even though expressing immediate impressions is not very Godwinning.
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Hard News: The silence of the public square, in reply to Russell Brown,
But the Internet Party have chosen to promote video of it. Laila seems to have no control over what they put out, and every time it happens it makes her job harder.
Especially the Nazi comparisons.
I'll tell my German friend who was disgusted by the immediate impression they got to pull their head in then. They carry a heavy burden still but too bad, eh. This is how Kivis do their politics now.
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Hard News: The silence of the public square, in reply to Russell Brown,
It's a new thing in campaign rallies though isn't it?
I suspect if a Colin Craig campaign meeting broke into a similar chant directed at Laila Harre she would be very offended again.
Dotcom (wasn't he supposed to be taking a back seat to the party?), Harre and Harawira can campaign how they like, but it makes their preciousness about taking offence (Harawira versus Davis, Harre versus Key) look a bit lame.
An in my opinion this is all a bad change in electioneering. No wonder Labour are gradually distancing themselves trying to maintain their Vote Positive slogan, no wonder Greens and NZ First already ready the warning signs.
If IMP end up holding the balance of power with Labour and Greens in government I think there's good cause to have concerns about what that may lead to.
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Hard News: The silence of the public square, in reply to Richard Aston,
Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi is safe
Nope, no one is safe from political attack, the dissers find something to diss on.
Someone recently blamed the wording on political billboards for 'inviting' defacement. That's nonsense, hoarding vandals just work on whatever is there regardless. I don't think any have thought "that face is too handsome/pretty to draw a mustache on".
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Hard News: The silence of the public square, in reply to Rich of Observationz,
In 2011 I was a party candidate (I had been going to stand as an independent) - correct.
Last year I stood as an independent local body candidate - correct.NZ right - this is a lazy diss, and nonsense.
Recycle themselves as an “impartial commentator” - I haven't tried to do that.
"Especially when it’s a standard technique" - really. I think you're making things up."I think it’s pretty relevant who happens to be running a line" - if you truly think that Rich of Observationz then you will be open about your political past and present, as you are obviously trying to run a line albeit anonymously.
And you could get back to topic which happens to be about silencing the public square - diversionary attacks and making things up are common ways of trying to shut down discussion about topics.
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Hard News: The silence of the public square, in reply to Rich of Observationz,
That's openly acknowledged peripheral involvement but it's history, you made false claims, and it has and nothing to with this thread except for you trying to use it as a diversionary attack. That commonly happens in political forums to try and divert from awkward facts.
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Hard News: The silence of the public square, in reply to Rich of Observationz,
The nature of the campaigning is more pertinent than the nationality but it's hard to escape from the connection.
Your link is eleven years old and has nothing to do with this topic, I had nothing to do with it, I have nothing to do with the person named and you make two false claims, so you observation is very poor.