Posts by Emma Hart
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or perhaps more if Emma's writing it
It's hardly a reach: the entire Canterbury team went out and got publicly spanked a couple of days ago.
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Oh, the shame!
Finishing a book of any kind is nothing to be ashamed of. I know people get terribly snobby about romance novels, but for me they're simply not to my taste. I DO like formula detective fiction, so there's no moral high ground there. (Also the pron, doubly so.)
I also don't really have problems with fanfic. We ban it at Bardic Web, but only for copyright and disciplinary reasons. (It leads to fights.) But if people are having fun, good gods, who cares. Formula fic and fanfic both provide structure, which can be an enormous help if you've never written anything large-scale before. It teaches you to write even when you don't feel like it, which is pretty much essential if you're ever going to finish anything (not my strong point). And if you're having fun it'll come through in your writing.
Oddly I also finished a book when I had two children under three. I'd get up to feed and then stay up and write.
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I know you are supposed to learn something new every day, but does this apply even when you don't want to? And quite possibly wish you hadn't?
It's rapidly turning into my reason for being, so I'm saying yes.
James Marsters is tangential to a contemplation of slashfiction? Who do you think you're kidding?
Not Russel T Davies or Joss Whedon, who both know exactly what they're doing. (Joss is on record as saying of course Angel and Spike had sex before Angel got his soul back. Slash-ficcers don't have to get stuff past network executives.)
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Indeed. But I think there's something here it's really important to remember: most adults are perfectly capable of distinguishing between fiction and reality. Most readers of 'romance' novels are perfectly well aware that real men don't behave, look, or perform like that. Ditto most viewers of visual porn.
So yes, there are perfectly lovely people who think fictional gay incest is sexy. This doesn't mean they feel the same about REAL gay incest. The appeal of fantasy to some extent is that it IS fantasy.
Where RPF gets problematic, even for a lot of slash-ficcers, is that it pushes that boundary between real and fictional. The Winchester brothers or the Weasley twins are fictional characters. The Marshall twins aren't, they're real people.
Re: the transgressive of cannon thing, one of the biggest online squeefests I've ever seen was generated by Torchwood's Kiss Kiss Bang Bang episode. There seems to a be genuine appetite for male characters getting it on, and having it actually happen in shows doesn't seem to hurt it much.
(Tangentially, I saw a Billy Idol video the other day and was shocked that he didn't look more like James Marsters.)
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And there's something to add to the list of Things I Never Wanted To Think About
It's not good for your head. I just went to Stuff, saw the headline 'Symonds an "enormous distraction" - Chappell' and giggled smuttily.
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I think the popularity of Wincest in the Supernatural fandom is as much down to the fact that there are only two main characters who spend most of their time with each other as to anything else
I'd just like to point out that when we start getting hits from people looking for Wincest, it's Lucy's fault. I hardly mentioned Wincest at all, so the Wincest hits aren't down to me.
Heh.
I'm more comfortable with the whole slash thing in a spec-fic context, which seems to be where it's most popular. So Wincest doesn't bother me as much as that Marshall-twins stuff I just accidentally read.
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More prosaically, RPF stands for "real person fic", usually in the context of writing stories about the actual actors having sex rather than thinly-veiled stories that are theoretically about the characters they portray but might as well not be
You can locate yourself on this chart, and see how far you are above "people who write erotic versions of Star Trek where all the characters are Furries and put a Furry version of themselves as the star of the story'.
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The Black Caps Five
Following the 'if you're looking for slash-fic look on LiveJournal' practice, I'm now wondering what it is with slash-ficcers and twins. Also the theory about how Damian Martyn 'retained his place in the team' is... disturbing.
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Ah, a fond memory emerges. The school library. A copy of Clan of The Cave Bear. Our English teacher suddenly Very Disappointed In All Of Us. Good times.
A friend and I once 'expurgated The Mammoth Hunters by ripping out and throwing away every page that wasn't a sex scene. It just seemed more honest.
There does seem to be some (slowly increasing) ratio of 'pages to boinking' required to make women feel like they're not just reading pron, but instead a lovely moving story that happens to contain some esstential-to-the-plot eroticism.
This is a phase I have outgrown.
2) I have it on good authority that there is a reasonable body of Black Caps slashfic floating around teh Interwebs.
Scuse me, I just have to go and... do something.
To be closer to serious for a moment, the whole deal with this cross-over was supposed to be to make rugby more appealing to women. In which case, in my experience, they should just have made it slash to start with.