Posts by Stephen Judd
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slarty: absolutely not envy driven. I myself used to fancy a big Jag. It's the "I want to be SAFE (and screw the consequences for you)" angle to the urban SUV that gets me.
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Yes, vans are just as bad. But there aren't as many of them, and they have the justification of being goods vehicles.
"SUVs are damn useful for their intended purpose. They are also very handy people movers, with good load capacities and ability to seat multiple people."
But really, isn't the intended purpose of the SUV to give a (false) sense of security to the driver? Almost all the ones I see are clean, unloaded, and with one person in them. If I am to judge by how they are actually used, as opposed to the offroad fantasy they project, they are no more work vehicles than my jeans are miner's pants or my trainers are sports shoes.
As "people movers", there are dedicated vehicles for that purpose - they are called "cars" or for more than four people, "minivans".
And in fact, I wouldn't mind that people want to brand themselves by driving a sporty vehicle that sends gratifying semiotic signals - that would be highly hypocritical of me - except that their particular choice is dangerous to other people.
You are right that there is some emotion behind that: when people put an irrational desire to be high up above the safety of their fellow citizens, it makes me cross.
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PS: I hadn't heard the "ride of Satan" line before, but if His Satanic Majesty were to pop out of one of those black monstrosities favoured by radio stations as promo vehicles, it wouldn't surprise me a bit.
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Driving in parts of Auckland where SUVs are common is quite frustrating as they block your line of sight.
Vans, trucks, buses and horsefloats need to be that big by virtue of their function. Likewise, by virtue of their function, they are quite rare.
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(Luckily, driving and parking an SUV in central Wellington is its own punishment.)
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Yes, whether you want to run over your own toddlers, roll your vehicle at speed, crush pedestrians, or simply treat other cars as your crumple zone, there's an SUV for you!
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My father, bless him, prints out web pages, sticks them in an envelope and posts them to me.
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Ngawww!
I have a Deering that looks just like the one in that vid. I think I'm going to go have a hack at Wildwood Flower RIGHT NOW.
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mark, you've already made it clear that you get a kick out of winding people up and that what you're trying to do is get a reaction from them. That's what trolling is. If you don't like the label, then don't do it. If you don't like what people say when you do wind them up, maybe you should consider whether you really get such a kick out of it.
This is also why I won't be asking for any clarification, or engaging with you again: you've demonstrated that you really aren't interested in conversation, or discussion, or saying what you mean.
Finally, "veto" and "postpone" don't mean the same thing in New Zealand English, or any other kind that I know of.
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Deborah's take sums up how I feel about the moral issues very, very well, so I no longer feel compelled to write anything about it.