Posts by kmont
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Oh my god! Where is the edit function!
The shame.
I must stay away from PAS for a time as penance. -
On a non-reptilian shapeshifter note, I can't help noticing that some of the PA bloggers have been a bit quiet of late. Come back cuzzies! Are they in hibernation or something?
Too true. Maybe we need to show some love activist style.
"Whatda we want? Tsu Ming
When do we want her? NOW(or would that sound too demanding.....)
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Very nice to hear your view Mikaere Curtis.
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Andrew, gotta go the sunshine is calling. as far as
Well Kowhai, how about Moana Jackson above - and it does seen to be a murky tenor coming out of the Maori Party.
goes, I don't know. I am on the fence. I think it radical yes, but there is some truth in there if you ask me.
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I've been getting the same impression as Andrew: the message seem to be how dare you call us terrorists, we can't be.
Well, I haven't been watching all the coverage so I don't know about that. I can definitely understand why Maori, more than others could feel tarred with the "terrorist" brush though. Not a minor thing. A lot people wont be able to distinguish what comes from the police, the media or the government.
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There seems to be this hinted-at rhetoric coming out of parts of Maoridom that suggests the word can't be used of anyone of Maori descent because they are indigenous.
Quote us something then.
There is always debate around how the word terrorist is used, because it is a contentious term. Maybe we have some home-grown terrorists, maybe we don't. I don't think we should be throwing the term around lightly. -
Graeme's first post covers that. If they wanted to have the option of bringing charges under the Terrorism Suppression Act, they had to say on the warrant that they were searching for evidence for charges under that act, as well as the Arms Act. Otherwise they would be seen to be on a fishing expedition.
So I'm not sure what MJ was on about there, but he is a lawyer.
I understood that much from Graeme's post but the media has been throwing around terms like "terror accused" without clarifying that point.
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I found this quote from Moana Jackson here.
"We must not define our people as terrorists. We might not agree with their methods but there's no place for words like rebel, heathen or savage."
Jackson criticised the use of the term terrorism when search warrants and arrests were done under the Summary Offences Act.
People had been arrested under the Firearms Act and held in custody while police tried to accumulate evidence to justify charges under the Terrorism Suppression Act, which requires approval from the Attorney General, Jackson said.
What do people think of that? I think it is quite relevant but I don't have enough legal knowledge to go around shooting my mouth off.
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I would also love more of Graeme's time. It is hard to know what is standard and what is unique in the treatment of these cases. What purpose is this secrecy serving? Or is that too, "top secret".
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Never let the facts get in the way
We don't know the facts. But don't let that stop your nicely paragraphed little wrap-up of events.