Posts by Samuel Scott
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hey new Trinity Roots... http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11312637
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I'm just going to jump in here with some self promotion;
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I cannot wait to see the Pulp film. I am amazed that Florian made it. Pretty excellent pairing of minds I think.
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Ra whanau Russell, I wish I at least partially able to make sense in te reo. I find it frustrating in many contexts and I'm considering doing a night course. I wish I'd learnt at school. I definitely want my son to learn and hopefully I can learn some while helping him!
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25 per cent nz music on the radio would be a tremendous turn off. There are not that many good kiwi songs.
Thank's for you input Neil.
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Since rents are high and door takings are low, it makes sense to put the bands on later,
Except that people just show up later. I always post set times to twitter so that the audience can actually make up their own minds. I find it quite odd that so few venues in NZ run a bar or restaurant adjacent but slightly separate to the music room. I would say at least 50% of the venues I have played in outside of NZ have a music room and a bar (many don't even have a bar to sell drinks in the music room, which is great from a show perspective as it gives you more control over sound pollution and lighting).
If you have a bar that can happily fit 80 people and music room that can fit 150/200 then you can service that music room from the bar, ie punters can choose to leave the squishy music land to buy a drunk in a calmer environment. I think you'd potentially sell more booze. I know many venues sell less drinks when shows are sold out as the bar areas get swamped by static humans watching the show. Having a separate bar means you potentially run ticketing just from the music room and have a floating drinking crowd. It also means you can put the focus on making the bar a better place to hang out. Great music spaces are not always great social spaces.
I now SFBH have really tried to improve the hangout vibes on their re-opening.
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In a small town , surely rents would be very reasonable so what are the basic start up costs to get something up and running?
Ian has put ball park costs for setting up venues in his book.
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I like the way this topic has shifted. I am utterly perplexed with how the live scene has dipped.
I'm not gonna name names but there NZ bands I really like, who get great reviews, get played on BFM and Active a lot, get features on Music 101 on National, have a good grasp of social media, make great music and yet struggle to get 150 people to their shows. And every established band that I know is seeing a reduction in ticket sales in the last year.
This is where I really connected with your book Ian (and I guess we have talked about this stuff a lot over the years) in terms of venues and how they could evolve. Small towns need a super passionate venue owner and then everything slots in to place. When TPF was first touring we could sell out Oamuru Penguin club and the Mussel Inn not because of who we were but because of the venue and the community that a venue can create around itself.
There was a New Plymouth facebook page setup to try and encourage TPF to come play a show their. We still haven't, primarily because we have connected with a venue, this sort of thing is actually quite common and so frustrating. (tragically the women who set that page up recently died in a car accident, we are talking with her friends about finally putting on this show as a kind of memorial).
The Cabana in Napier is a good venue and we always seem to get a crowd there these days. Again I think it has almost as much to do with the venue as the band.
Why don't Taupo/Whanganui/New Plymouth/Hamilton/Tauranga/Rotorua all have 150 capacity venues run by enthusiastic music heads (wether young hipsters or old flying nunsters it doesn't matter).
Enthusiasm is almost all the counts.
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(but i love you all the same)
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You are such a stirrer Ian!