Posts by mark taslov
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Yay, somebody did the maths! We are nowhere near the Creative Event Horizon.
So then there is consensus that an end point for this system can hypothetically be calculated wth a reasonable degree of accuracy. Not near mind, just finite. Surely only a devout monk who believed in an apocalypse would lay down such system, leaving it loitering somewhere in the middle before version 2?
"I am the word" etc etc ..Christian undertones saturating the non-collective Dogma. Yes I'm aware 'copyright' in its loosest form predates Christianity, but it does seem to be a primarily western invention.
It's a curiously physical phenomenon: the hairs on the back of your neck go up, and your heart sinks.
It is. It is a curiously physical phenomenon in that we are well past the time that the general public was really that fussed. John Lennon and George Harrison were both sued for plagiarism and lost and paid and we all moved somewhere new because as artists they did it for us.
So even if Witi becoming a Beatle sets hairs on the back or your neck alight Jolisa, Take heart in the level of cynicism the general public have already developed to the pedantry of that particular system of intellectual possession/ ownership.
Should he rewrite the novel, or can it all be solved with some money changing hands? In which case where is the artistic and intellectual purity underpinning these values you're espousing.
I think with your calculation of the nonevent horizon David, you neglected to mention the plethora of literature previously written in other languages yet to be translated into English which may infringe the copyright of works as yet unwritten. It's a minor issue I know, I'm not predicting anything, certainly not talking about whole novels (maybe 0.4%), I'm merely attempting to invalidate the functionality of a system designed to ultimately allow only one unacknowledged instance of every sentence or what have you.
There's nothing wrong with a bit of collectivity now and then, its just a little harder if there's a heaven and a hell for transgression of the commandments in the back of your mind. Witi did not steal his neighbours ox, he simply took a photo and stuck it in his book.It's not so much that the system is wrong, merely that it is foreign to a nonconvertible number (David?) of people, unless of course we want to dust off our muskets again.
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who knows where human creativity is going to jump next?
Banksy.
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"That's it, I'm taking my ball and I'm going home!"
This whole system seems designed without forethought or consideration towards the finiteness of language in practicable terms. There is an end point. That end point will be reached within the next 1000 years when the mass of appendix, references, bibliography, acknowledgments or whatever inevitably outweighs the body of the work itself.
This is the silliness you mean Islander. I missed you. As you well know and have pointed out to me many a time, my voice struggles to affect words adequately. I did not mean to imply that I think 'this system' is sustainable, just as the economic system wasn't. I was merely drawing a hypothetical conclusion based on the primitive nature of 'this system' as it would seem to many outsiders. Anyone who has witnessed the mashups on youtube knows 'this system' is already largely irrelevant to a generation (precluding those partaking in publishers' advertisements).
There was no intent to imply that 'this system' is fairing well at all nor that the 'will' could eventuate. My 'will' perhaps should be read as a conditional, aromatic, beckoning 'would', to those in denial of the largely irrelevant nature of this issue beyond the realm of media sanctimony.
I'd hoped this cleared that up.:
omg, the creative event horizon!! It's an interesting perspective.
I think it already passed or was bypassed.
silly and tame I'll duly accept Islander. Valid. It's simply that from where I sit 'this system' is a square wheel and so I imagined making a play on how things might go down for the square wheel vaguely attractive amidst the clamor of intellectuals championing a version of right.
I was quite interested to read what you wrote above your Taslov jibe, you never struck me as being particularly precious before;
Really really shallow (like every human being) and really really protective about original creative works & copyright - authenticity/originality are things I have been criticised for- but which I maintain I am involved with- and I majorly respect any other writer.
It reminded me of the third stanza of chapter 2, "The Rise of Relative Opposites" from 'The Way of Virtue' by Old Master, 600BC
Therefore the Sage:
Manages affairs without action;
Preaches the doctrine without words;
All things take their rise, but he does not turn away from them;
He gives them life, but does not take possession of them;
He acts, but does not appropriate;
Accomplishes, but claims no credit.
It is because he lays claim to no credit
That the credit cannot be taken away from him. -
Mark Taslov, I think your idea really really silly - who knows where human creativity is going to jump next? (And your example was really really tame. I've been playing with sound/pikkies/vibration stuff lately - will fit in with writing believe you me.)
Which silly idea are you referring to Islander? Which tame example?
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Sorry for rhyming , it just happens,;
But I'm not nearly as pessimistic as you seem to be. I reckon we'll continue generating fresh content for millennia to come. Ideas are plentiful, and new combinations thereof even more so. Leave them alone, and they will come home, wagging their footnotes behind them.
That really would depend on your definition of fresh...
omg, the creative event horizon!! It's an interesting perspective.
I think it already passed or was bypassed. The book is on the market, being sold, being read, begging the question, how relevant is this issue to the industry?
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Could appreciation of this book by one not culturally attuned to the politics at play sway your mother's taste Jolisa?
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The increase of intellectual property limitations and conformist moral sanctimony heaped on the author/artist for IP infringements coupled against the post internet media explosion is a major influence on the stunned mediocrity mainstream western art currently finds itself in.
connectors are being blocked.
I quite like the idea of remixes and mash-ups of written works.
Not cut-ups -- more like artistic rewrite subbing, making plain what you're doing.
Does anyone do this? Not in a cut-up way, but in the sense of something you'd actually want to read?
I'm also into this kind of thing but it seems a bit contrary to the market values being promoted.
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and or bicycles and portable hard drives? It's almost as if a case is being made that hosting a show on bfm makes DJs more worthy than the 20,000 students, staff and countless other listeners. Why not just learn to teleport like all the other messiahs.
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I paid the $90, with still no idea about where and when I was supposedly illegally parked, just to get them off my back. Scary.
With a world population topping 6 billion, a time will come when it is necessary to ask yourself how competent these clowns are that can't even handle a population of 4 million with reasonable transparent standards..
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She's driving.