Posts by mark taslov
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Hard News: On joining the international…, in reply to Dennis Frank,
Equal rights for all sounds promising. We discussed Harawira getting shut down for "reasons" earlier – an activist by no small stretch – Brash's predecessor on the 'walk of shame'.
reverse discrimination is a thing – and so is white fragility
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Perceived by whom?
“groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.”
I find that behaviour just as offensive as that of the establishment folk they demonise
Just to be sure I’ve got this, are you saying you find strong encouragement to avoid forms of expression or action that exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against as offensive as the structurally discriminatory establishment excluding, marginalizing, or insulting minorities?
e.g racism is as offensive as anti-racism?
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Hard News: On joining the international…, in reply to Dennis Frank,
l̶e̶f̶t̶i̶s̶t̶s̶:
at the risk of burdening your binary absolutism with the complexity of power dynamics I hope you don’t mind if i fix your typo there Dennis:
m̲i̲n̲o̲r̲i̲t̲i̲e̲s̲:minorities existing on multiple axes of oppression generally speaking, e.g wahine toa, folk who don’t commonly get to speak from the paepae.
Brash clarified this earlier:
“Right across the political spectrum from the left to the right people have been very supportive of my right to speak freely on Massey campus and very critical of the vice chancellor,” says Brash.
That’s no spurious claim – leftists got in behind him, in numbers, as he states.
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Alice Snedden this morning launching into a rousing patriotic rendition of The Tolerable Bigot to much acclaim.
While they are both racist, their expressions of this are very different. One is just outright hatred and lies, while the other is more slippery. We don’t need to entertain the former, that’s rubbish we can ignore. We don’t learn from it.
But I think we need to hear out the latter, if for no other reason, than we have to understand that point of view so we can overcome it.
The evident incumbent privilege in being in a position to be publicly selective about which racists you feel deserve a fair hearing.
for some reason this keeps coming to mind
Reality is there for us to base our lives on. Sure, part of it is socially constructed, but hiding from it tends to make folks delusional, induces pathologies. Which is what those opposing free speech are demonstrating.
Based on what's been happening in the UK, "patholigies" sounds like a dog whistle.
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Maximising tolerance does actually require you be reasonably intolerant toward particularly intolerant people.
it is disheartening, as fascism rattles the door, that Karl Popper’s Paradox of Intolerance is not parlance for those engaging in political discussion, akin to something like ‘Godwin’s Law’. In the same conversations as we’re holding up our universities as bastions of our education system
The paradox states that if a society is tolerant without limit, their ability to be tolerant will eventually be seized or destroyed by the intolerant.
Without that layer of nuance in public discourse it’s all too easy for establishment types like Sir John Well’s son to frame it at an individual level at the expense of addressing systemic discrimination via the state-owned tele network.
"he does make a fair point about free speech and free speech is a very important thing and in the end you mightent like what someone says but you have to, [thud] you have to encourage free speech, it’s an important part of democracy..[…] you chuck your idea out there and let someone tell you your idea is no good, it’s no good, make your decision up”.
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Hard News: On joining the international…, in reply to WH,
I don’t know whether you’ve offered this seriously
perhaps you could continue this with someone you take seriously then, comments are open
In the discussion I referenced the cancellation of Hone Harawira’s talk at the University of Auckland Law School. One student said to me: “Where was the outrage then?”
Yes, indeed. Where were all the outraged “free speech” advocates when Harawira was uninvited from speaking on a university campus? Umm…. hmm.
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Hard News: On joining the international…, in reply to WH,
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Hard News: On joining the international…, in reply to mark taslov,
I’ve always imagined widespread validation must be empowering.
Despite the cancellation Brash says he was encouraged by the support for free speech.
“Right across the political spectrum from the left to the right people have been very supportive of my right to speak freely on Massey campus and very critical of the vice chancellor,” says Brash.
Victor writes history. In failing to account for power dynamics these conversations inevitably become a whytathon.
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Hard News: On joining the international…, in reply to Dennis Frank,
Here in Aotearoa, we don’t like that. We believe in giving people a fair go.
We sure do, when they’re white
