Posts by insider outsider
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Thanks Fletch - take your word for it. I thought the allegation of child throwing was there already and they picked it up and ran with it rather than creating it.
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Yes I too wonder if this big bogey CT is being built up - one could even call it dogwhistling perhaps. I actually fail to see that they are anything particualrly evil on the political spectrum. Hard nosed, yes, but I don't see evidence of them actually making stuff up - they exploited Tampa but didn't create it from what I can see.
In London they used "a sly campaign slogan" and in Australia used "subtle appeals to fear and prejudice". Well call out the guards!
Nicky Hager's main beef seems to be not that they lie or make stuff up but that they exploit situations and people's base fears to achieve political advantage and so are generally not nice. Well no sheet? Show me a politician that doesn;t.
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Ok, let's be fair. Will the EPMU be running attack ads for Labour or not? HC must know and must come clean as to whether the union is a stalking horse for Labour
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Simon
Does Mike Williams count?
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PAul
Key may be the leader but is still part of a machine that aims to go on with or without him. His strings are pulled just like HC, who has large numbers of PR people and political advisers, gets media training, and has her picture enhanced.
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Sarah
One of the things PR does is manage risk. It often does this by formalising the engagement with the media through key messages and photo ops etc. That can remove sponteneity which can often be an individual's strength. Problem with sponteneity is it can be risky, which means it has to be managed...
Clark by all accounts is very good in small groups and comes across as very warm. I find she is the opposited in staged events like Question Time where she often appears stilted
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Paul
I don't think those fit the push poll mould. PP's tend to be anonymous and undermining not overt like a party brochure. If those are push polls then what are the ongoing referneces by Labour and allies to secret agendas, big money donors, welfare and health cuts etc with no supporting evidence? That;s really just politics, nothing else.
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Stanley
Hager's claim was so waffley that it should be dismissed as the fantasies of a conspiracist. He refused to cite any actual rumours or evidence that there was any organisation to them, and when challenged quickly began to backpeddle. Just the dog whistling innuendo that he accuses C&T of.
His opinion that "it's worse than ever" is more a sign of his closeted existence - indeed I'd say it was a lot worse last election because of Brash's stupid comments about Clark and her lack of family, and the vitriol in Parliament from Labour about affairs.
I wonder if he has considered that rumours might be rising because HC is lower in the polls than ever and there is an election around the corner. Just a theory...
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Well he was mentioned in one of Hager's books so may feel a personal connection.
But it may also be because a story with so little substance was being given so much airtime. Just as at the last election Labour got a lot over the mythical american bagmen.
As he said it was a huge irony that so much time was being spent on it and other issues ignored and not because of CT but because of Hager.
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From memory HC was the first person to raise them publicly in her own biography and in regards to internal Labour rivalries.
And if Hager has to rely on rumours like that, which have been around for so many years, it really shows he has nothing and gives credence to this being a silly beat up.