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9:41AM Jul 8, 2015 • Read Post

Speaker: Honest Bastards & Dishonest Cowards

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• Sacha, in reply to BenWilson, 18:04 Jul 10, 2015

  Curia does not work for free. Plentiful Nat donations end up in Farrar's pockets.

  Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

• Kumara Republic, in reply to Sacha, 19:12 Jul 10, 2015

  Curia does not work for free. Plentiful Nat donations end up in Farrar’s pockets.

  As it stands, NZ basically has the best democracy and free speech money can buy.

  The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report

• BenWilson, 23:49 Jul 10, 2015

  Nor should it. But I would bet it's at mate's rates.

  Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report

• andin, in reply to BenWilson, 16:07 Jul 12, 2015

  I’m not saying them to be comfortable

  Missed my point completely. I was hoping you might know of a way out of this financial BS we have been lumbered with.
  And then you say this

  I’ve gained degrees in the mathematics required to understand it over the last few years. And the one thing that stands out to me more and more, the more I look into it, is just how simple it isn’t.

  So we have created a system so fiendish only a vanishingly small percentage of the population can figure it out? jeez its not a "Law of Nature" , we came up with "money", yet the system now works against many people and for only a few. That is just wrong. And has to change

  raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

• BenWilson, in reply to andin, 23:41 Jul 12, 2015

  I was hoping you might know of a way out of this financial BS we have been lumbered with.

  Nah, sorry. I've only got ideas. It's definitely not an area I specialize in. I'm aware that there's alternate economic theories about money and they barely get the light of day in any positions of actual authority.

  So we have created a system so fiendish only a vanishingly small percentage of the population can figure it out?

  Well it has always been hard to predict the future of dynamical systems with many feedback loops. Even for small numbers of bodies with large predictable effects, like in astronomy, it's very hard. For humans, capable of self reflection and attempting to gain advantage by predicting the future, and working in huge numbers in interacting ways, it's crystal ball gazing in many situations. I don't think it's anyone's fault that it's massively complex. The only real fault lies in economic analysis that refuses to really allow alternatives. How can our knowledge ever progress if we can't experiment? Economics should be an experimental science, not a mathematical one in which people profess strong laws and then can't predict shit with them.

  Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report

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