OnPoint: Election 2011: GO!
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nzlemming, in reply to
I’m a bit late to this, but surely Danyl was taking the piss?
I don't think so. If you accept his "centrist" proposition, it sort of makes sense, but I don't accept it. I'm more in line with Giovanni in that it's a crap way of organizing government - so that nothing actually gets done.
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nzlemming, in reply to
He might have voted for their hot chicks many times.
Well, that would say bucketloads about his judgement...
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Weird, because I think this is like the least-harsh place I've ever posted, unless you count the Facebook discussion threads under my kid's baby pictures. :)
So, Jack, it appears that most people had no idea that Ian left. I do admit that I did, and I also probably bitched about people 'flouncing' on Twitter, because it's a wee peeve of mine. So the heartless bastard count currently stands at one: me. I'll cop to it.
But I'm sure we do all agree that it's a shame and we hope he comes back, because we like him and I, at least, am terrible at puns.
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nzlemming, in reply to
OK, so a plurality of the electorate are fuck-wits and the media are all meat-bots
I thought this was a given in politics, regardless of which team you bat for.
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nzlemming, in reply to
Actually, that sounds pretty good. I shall now use one henceforth
One always should. ;-)
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No, it isn’t. Vote for what people say they will do, not because it’s “someone else’s turn”. I cannot grasp how a reasoning adult could find that reasonable.
I could see a reasonable (but weak) argument for it along the basis of:
1. NZ doesn't have a real centrist party.
2. If you were between Labour and National you might find that Labour pushed the country too far to the left for you, so you voted National to bring it back to the right. After a term or two of that you thought it had gone too far, so you voted Labour again.It wouldn't be a particularly sophisticated voting system, because governments don't necessarily move you slowly along the spectrum, they take big jumps in particular areas so you'd swing wildly from left to right.
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Sacha, in reply to
but one sounds so.. lonely
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Jacqui Dunn, in reply to
Ian deciding not to post here any more
Ian Dalziel?
ETA: Caught up, and I guess, it is Ian Dalziel. That's a shame. -
Danielle, in reply to
It’s the loneliest number that you’ll ever do.
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Martin Lindberg, in reply to
Ah, quoting the soundtrack of a favourite movie? ;-)
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which is one reason I was so disappointed to the attitude to Ian deciding not to post here any more. You all just let him go without so much as a ‘oh, that’s a shame’
Ian's decision is Ian's decision - what value is there in dragging someone into a conversation they don't want to have? I confess to being a little mystified as to why he made it, but I respect his decision - I made the same one some time ago (and eventually returned, because this is still one of the most civilized discourses on the NZ net) and I don't recall any entreaties to stay, nor did I expect them. We all have our own reasons for doing things - we should all be respected in those decisions we make, regardless of how it makes others feel. Personally, I'll miss the zany, but needle-sharp, observations Mr D brought to PAS, but there's others I miss as well (not robbery - don't let anyone tell you that!).
Life goes on.
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nzlemming, in reply to
If you could all give my apologies to Jackie tomorrow, that would be good. Something’s come up.
Actually, that's usually Craig, so it's good you're here to give him a breather.
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Make up your own minds why I posted that...
(the truth is I was reading about running out of IP addresses)
Anyhoo, the let's give the other mob a go could well be seen as a twenty something year old not liking the mob they voted for the first time and giving the other lot a go, still rather juvenile. -
nzlemming, in reply to
still rather juvenile.
Ah, politics!
Okay, after wine, scotch and an interesting week, I'm off to bed. Nighty night.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
If you could all give my apologies to Jackie tomorrow, that would be good. Something’s come up.
Bugger – someone else I’m not going to have the pleasure of poisoning. You’ll keep. :)
I was so disappointed to the attitude to Ian deciding not to post here any more. You all just let him go without so much as a ‘oh, that’s a shame’.
In my own defence, if it was said on that thread in a certain place, it put me in a pretty toxic head space and had nothing useful to add beyond my initial (and very early) comment.
And if Ian’s taking a powder from PAS, I don’t know the whys and wherefores so a bit of man-tronage (however well-intentioned) would not be productive. I’ve taken a rest from various on-line communities because if it ain’t fun and/or illuminating, or you’re just racking up the bad karma, stepping off for a bit isn’t a bad idea. God knows I’m going to be doing a lot of judicious scrolling and tongue-gnawing between now and November…
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Sacha, in reply to
It’s the loneliest number that you’ll ever do.
oh you're good at te references
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Sacha, in reply to
the pleasure of poisoning
noted
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God knows I’m going to be doing a lot of judicious scrolling between now and November…
And can we all just try, from a moderation point of view, to keep this in mind? That we're going to have a very long election campaign, tempers are going to be tested, and just try to remember to be careful about both what we write, and how we read and react to what others have written? We don't want to end up with people simply avoiding discussions.
Sorry, I know I'm sounding like a cross between a hippy and a Matron. Eat your fucking vegetables, man.
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Jacqui Dunn, in reply to
Bugger - someone else I'm not going to have the pleasure of poisoning.
So it is shared food? ;))
I don't know what happened with Ian, and as I don't often go to other blogs except when linked (yes, I know, novice!), still don't know. But there are many on PAS whose opinions I follow with interest; many sane minds offering sane thoughts; many offering challenging ideas, and much, much humour. People disappear for ages, only to reappear suddenly, and on goes the discussion. So I'm hoping we won't have seen/heard the last of him.
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Sorry, I know I'm sounding like a cross between a hippy and a Matron. Eat your fucking vegetables, man.
Ha.
Anyway, I think I've decided to return to NZ for a bit, so I plan on catching some of you in person. It would be nice to put some corporeality into this virtual community I've engaged in from a foreign land over the last 4 years.
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Sacha, in reply to
we're less argumentative in real life
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Jacqui Dunn, in reply to
we're less argumentative in real life
My goodness, I should hope so. I cry when thwarted. Be warned!
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My goodness, I should hope so. I cry when thwarted. Be warned!
I don't think there's a single one I've met who hasn't turned out to be quieter and more reserved in real life. Well, okay, Megan. And Jo. Okay, the boys are lovely.
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Islander, in reply to
I've never met any PAS person but, just to give a warning, I'm really small, live under a rock in my single malt cellar, and have hearing so acute that bats detour round my place.
Very polite animals, bats...(And yet, I heard nothing about Ian D's departure...love his wordplay...really sorry if he has upped& gone-)
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Having followed that back to the other blog, I feel the need to quote OMC. A plagiarism argument over the word 'muse' and the colour blue?
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