Hard News: You've got to listen to the music
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My daughter is seeking more information on 'the most interesting leotard' worn by Peaches (NZH review of BDO).
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Some of the points it makes are blindingly self-evident (eg 'alternative' is just another genre or marketing slot) but it is interesting that these view are expressed by a marketing type.
As you say, it's jam-packed with the bleeding obvious.
He uses the phrases "counter-culture" and "counter-cultural" 14 times in one column without establishing that the BDO organisers have made any such claim for it, or that the punters see it that way.
He makes the point that even an "alternative" festival will "still need a functioning capitalist system" -- obvious to the point of redundancy -- as if it's some sizzling insight.
Actually, nobody goes to the Big Day Out thinking they're overthrowing capitalism. Where would we buy our sneakers? His comparisons with Woodstock and Altamont are fatuous, his grasp on how BDO punters might actually distinguish themselves culturally, non-existent.
It's an amusingly misconceived piece of rubbish. I don't think I'd be in a hurry to purchase research insights from Mr Dodd on the basis of this.
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3410,
What the Hell is a 'follower of Russell Crowe'??
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What the Hell is a 'follower of Russell Crowe'??
They're the opposition. Crowey and me are going to find a paddock and let our respective armies have it out.
Apparently, if my team wins, capitalism's over.
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3410,
Yeah, this is the same BS attitude that says I'm a hypocrite if I'm critical of capitalism yet... still buy my food from a supermarket! Sorry, but I live in Sandringham, so if I don't buy food, I'll be surviving on a diet of mostly cats.
And the idea that BDO is "counter-culture"? It's been the biggest event on the youth calender for the best part of 20 years!
Severely out of touch, that man.
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His use of the term "counter-culture" just reveals how much his argument owes to the book Rebel Sell (which he does cite). Is it a term that gets used in NZ much, especially within discussion about alternative music? I wouldn't have thought so. It's a term that came with the argument he borrowed from the US.
Anyway. I've seen Gladiator -- my money's on Crowey.
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Crowey and me are going to find a paddock and let our respective armies have it out.
As long as there are no skirts&sandals!
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They're the opposition. Crowey and me are going to find a paddock and let our respective armies have it out.
My almost sole claim to fame is R Crowe throwing me in the freezer at The Venue on my 16th birthday. So if you want a legionnaire with the bloodlust, I'm your man.
Jeez, Campbell Smith was trying it on a bit when he told Mikey yesterday morning that they'd created a great environment for Local Produce -- it was more Guantanamo Bay than Hawke's Bay.
Yeah. It was certainly more Gravel Pit than Passion Pit.
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I didn't BDO this year for the exact reason that it is totally capitalistic. The event is just another big marketing ploy with music as the draw card, it is about as counter cultural as the Home Show, geez, Timaru's A&P Show would be more counter cultural and with a greater choice of beer. [citation needed]
In fact here's a freebie for the Ashburton Agricultural & Pastoral Association, a slogan.
"Forget the Big Day Out.
Timaru A&P Show,
See the cattle, don't be the cattle."
(yeah I know, it's not on till October, but what the hey?) -
Whereas the Kumeu Classic Car and Hotrod show is on today. You want counter culture, how's them apples?
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Ahh, Westie culture.
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<quote>Ahh, Westie culture.</qoute>
Way out west, there is the Kai Festival at Kawhia on Feb 6.
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businesspeople not in the know will still be wondering why so many of their younger staff called in sick this morning
And someone might gently have a word in Mr Dodd's ear about this thing we Earth people call 'the weekend'.
What a twerp.
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One could argue that in this respect, the clear commercialism of Britney Spears is actually more 'authentic' and 'honest' than the apparent affectations of the BDO brand position.
Ok, so I'm reading in larger font now, and this really needs to be slam dunked. Can someone please throw me a lob, 'cause the basket [case] is open, and the defenders are all checking they didn't get a text from Russell Crowe.
Any 'movement' or sub-culture, from 1950's beatniks through to hippies, punks, Goths, EMOs and metalheads, as well as homeopaths, New Agers, Linux-users, fair-traders
Anyone feeling left out?
Sorry, we have to give him a late breaking contradiction.
One has to conclude that the authenticity is truly there - it is an excellent brand.
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Real is the new fake.
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Brown is the new Moses.
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Russell Brown or Russell Brand, that is the question.
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Russell Brown or Russell Brand, that is the question.
Oh, well played sir.
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Brand Brown.
Can we get PAS declared a cult, so we can get banned in China [thread splice].
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PS As I have just read Graham Reid's excellent review of the BDO, perhaps I should have let this go, and jumped on that bandwagon instead.
I wasn't ready for this thread to die, and I certainly didn't want to be the one who killed it. So can we move passed the cult of personalities and get back to some Video tennis?
As I swayed in the crush of the BDO throng, this strangely came to mind. More 80s low-brow.
Oh, yes, and while we're in that mood, how about this?
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