Hard News: Sub Mission
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
Errorists...
I often read it out loud...
That's how we used to do it in the proofreaders' room at The Press - before the machines 'won' - a reader and a copy-holder, who would often tick each word, four eyes and ears, two brains, and even then the odd mistake would get through... such as some politician being described as "the Leader of the Oppression".
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
As when subbing for the Dom ?
Sorry don’t understand.go ask Emma...
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Hebe, in reply to
I see. My home contains a former reporter and a former sub from an altogether more gentlemanly masthead than the Dom; it can still be a version of the Bogside when wires are crossed. Given my total miss of that entendre I shall retire to the cats thread.
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Emma Hart, in reply to
As when subbing for the Dom ?
Sorry don’t understand.go ask Emma...
I have wanted a job subbing for the Dom for ages now, just so I could constantly make that joke. In the meantime I content myself with my pro bono work.
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From Stop Press, the next thing to fret about: the coming of the robot reporters.
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Lilith __, in reply to
In the meantime I content myself with my pro bono work.
Stop, stop, you people make me laugh so much it hurts.
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JacksonP, in reply to
Stop, stop, you people make me laugh so much it hurts.
Oh piffle! News is best when it's hot off the press.
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Lilith __, in reply to
"Piffle", Jackson? Willing to bet nobody’s used that word since Bertie’s cruel Aunt Agatha. ;-)
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Bart Janssen, in reply to
an observation
But Hebe you are looking at the whole cost. If you partition the costs into separate budgets then you can cut costs in the sub editor room and hit your KPIs. that the costs have gone up for the corporation as a whole is not your fault.
Also if they are so good at their job then they shouldn't be "wasted" working only on one newsroom.
Obviously I agree entirely with you, just all too aware of the way these decisions get made.
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Hebe, in reply to
In the meantime I content myself with my pro bono work.
Stop, stop, you people make me laugh so much it hurts.Surely not you also Lilith?
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Bart Janssen, in reply to
pro bono work
missing "r"
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Emma Hart, in reply to
missing "r"
Pro brono?
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Tom Beard, in reply to
Stop, stop, you people make me laugh so much it hurts.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Lilith __, in reply to
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
I thought somebody might say that. ;-)
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With fairfax outsourcing "sub editing" jobs to NZ - they will be wanting to rely on NZ's high speed broadband network - they haven't experienced the level of outage and power failure.
An outage schedule - is one even produced.or published?
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Isn't the Herald one big scheduled outrage?
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Lilith __, in reply to
That’s how we used to do it in the proofreaders’ room at The Press –
One of my sisters did that job for a while. There was one chap who used to often fall asleep, as it was his third job of the day.
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I think cheap-siding the subs is a case of being penny wise and pounds foolish. I won’t go into the tedious details, but back in the day an eagle-eyed sub (with plenty of institutional memory and local knowledge) saved me from a “trivial typing error” (i.e. sloppy attribution hard on deadline) that could have ended up in a defamation suit. A simple inquiry, and a few minutes re-writing, saved a lot of trouble.
And while I was in London, Hillary Mantel’s Bring Up The Bodies was (quite correctly) getting rave reviews. Shame the print edition of one broadsheet incorrectly called the novel’s protagonist Oliver Cromwell instead of Thomas nine times in a 800 word note. Petty and not really that important in the great scheme of things? Perhaps, but why should I take the book pages of a major daily newspaper seriously if they can’t get something that basic right.
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Lucy Stewart, in reply to
Petty and not really that important in the great scheme of things? Perhaps, but why should I take the book pages of a major daily newspaper seriously if they can’t get something that basic right.
That's not petty. That's wrong-President-Roosevelt inaccurate (and they at least shared a *century*.) Imagine the weird view of history it's going to give some of its readers.
In re: reading aloud, partner likes to read his work in a Texan accent, as he claims it makes him think carefully about each word. Oddly enough, have never caught him doing this when I'm home.
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
Petty and not really that important in the great scheme of things? Perhaps, but why should I take the book pages of a major daily newspaper seriously if they can’t get something that basic right.
And if mistakes get glossed over, what about blatant lies? With apologies to Mark Twain and Winston Churchill, a lie travels halfway round the world before the truth can punch in its username and password.
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As above, so below...
Nicely Hermetic editorial spread - from Sub to Super...Strip mining...
Gerard Jones writes well about the whole saga of Cleveland's finest sons, Shuster & Siegel, in Men of Tomorrow - and Michael Chabon took a Pulitzer winning fictional look at it with The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay - Joe Cavalieri expands on it as well, hereStan Lee was always a company man, and has looked after himself well, Kirby did the bulk of the creative work on a lot of those early comics, and fast!
Ditto, Ditko...Knuckles the nun's good knock...
Good on Roger Langridge for his stand on this - I hope it doesn't impact on some of his tie-ins to Disney (ie The Muppets) now that Disney owns Marvel - I love that his first Popeye comic cover is a tribute to the first Superman story
Subhumans...
The thing I notice is that often management don't seem to factor nightshift subs into their chains of communication - they don't seem to realise that it is the subs who craft and finesse the finished products that pay their upper echelon salaries. An editor is only as good as their subs. -
JLM,
Hope I can post this here for Dundin people, but everyone knows there's a Save TVNZ7 meeting in the Colqhoun theatre 1st floor Dunedin Hospital at 6pm tonight, right? Do pass it on, I haven't seen it well advertised
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